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| coppice:
--- Quote from: james_s on June 25, 2023, 06:57:19 pm ---Personally I don't think "hate crime" should even be a legal concept. A crime is a crime, it makes no difference what motivated the crime. If a person is assaulted or murdered it doesn't matter if it's because the perpetrator didn't like some aspect of their affiliation with a protected class, just wanted to steal their wallet, or engaged in a totally random attack for reasons unknown, the result is exactly the same. --- End quote --- You need a lot of hate in your heart to think that hate crimes make sense. You can't know what's in someone's head when they do something bad. It just projection. Legally it should be irrelevant. Either some action is acceptable or unacceptable to society. Outlaw the unacceptable. |
| PlainName:
--- Quote ---Either some action is acceptable or unacceptable to society. Outlaw the unacceptable. --- End quote --- I think that's the problem: trying to outlaw the unacceptable, being specific enough to catch workarounds that skip the letter of a law but not dragging in unintended stuff. A hate crime is basically someone being malicious, but how do you outlaw that? |
| TimFox:
https://www.matthewhoff.com/criminal-defense/domestic-violence-defense/malicious-mischief/ https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?path=/prelim@title18/part1/chapter65&edition=prelim "Malicious mischief" is a normal criminal offense, defined by statute (18 USC Ch 65). |
| PlainName:
Malicious mischief is a US thing, and it only covers physical damage. Here in the UK we don't have that. For us, 'hate crime' is calling someone names and upsetting them (bit of poetic license there). |
| TimFox:
"Malicious Mischief" is an offense in Scottish common law. Does the Vatican's canon law include this crime? |
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