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Amazon accuses customer of racism & shuts down their smart home!
coppice:
--- Quote from: Zero999 on June 29, 2023, 08:24:55 pm ---The law in many parts of the world, especially Europe has slowly being shifting towards criminalising anything which might offend a minority.
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If you criminalise vague notions of offence you criminalise everything. There isn't a single thing I can say that won't offend someone. We have a duty to offend, although its impolite to make a habit of it.
gnuarm:
--- Quote from: james_s on June 29, 2023, 09:09:09 pm ---
--- Quote from: coppice on June 29, 2023, 09:06:24 pm ---
--- Quote ---I've noticed as society has become progressively safer, the bar to what constitutes harm has been lowered.
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When seat belts became compulsory A&E departments went quiet, then the injured slowly crept back up. Saying the best safety measure for a car is a big spike sticking out of the middle of the steering wheel is not just said in jest. People slowly bring their risks to some equilibrium. Now society has become so safe they are making up bogus risks to achieve some weird kind of equilibrium.
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I think there is some truth to that. Cars in my opinion are too safe now, they go to absurd lengths for safety which makes them very complicated and expensive and a lot of these safety assist features simply enable people to engage in risky behavior.
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Yes, making a car safer will be more expensive than a car that is unsafe. Drawing the line is an arbitrary choice. But it is a choice that must be made. It's easy to point fingers and claim things are done badly, especially when a person doesn't actually know anything about the details.
gnuarm:
--- Quote from: coppice on June 29, 2023, 09:06:24 pm ---
--- Quote ---I've noticed as society has become progressively safer, the bar to what constitutes harm has been lowered.
--- End quote ---
When seat belts became compulsory A&E departments went quiet, then the injured slowly crept back up. Saying the best safety measure for a car is a big spike sticking out of the middle of the steering wheel is not just said in jest. People slowly bring their risks to some equilibrium. Now society has become so safe they are making up bogus risks to achieve some weird kind of equilibrium.
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Oh, yes. When I drive, I don't worry with the speedometer. I maintain a constant risk level as indicated by the risk-o-meter. I'm so glad they added those. I understand Tesla is going to incorporate that into the autopilot, enabling the car to operate at speeds only limited by perceived risk.
gnuarm:
--- Quote from: james_s on June 29, 2023, 09:09:09 pm ---
--- Quote from: coppice on June 29, 2023, 09:06:24 pm ---
--- Quote ---I've noticed as society has become progressively safer, the bar to what constitutes harm has been lowered.
--- End quote ---
When seat belts became compulsory A&E departments went quiet, then the injured slowly crept back up. Saying the best safety measure for a car is a big spike sticking out of the middle of the steering wheel is not just said in jest. People slowly bring their risks to some equilibrium. Now society has become so safe they are making up bogus risks to achieve some weird kind of equilibrium.
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I think there is some truth to that. Cars in my opinion are too safe now, they go to absurd lengths for safety which makes them very complicated and expensive and a lot of these safety assist features simply enable people to engage in risky behavior.
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It's especially annoying that the annual death rate is still so high. In the US, it's around 30,000 to 35,000 each year. If those safety features are not going to save us all, then we need to ditch them and let every man fend for himself!
SiliconWizard:
--- Quote from: coppice on June 29, 2023, 09:09:40 pm ---
--- Quote from: Zero999 on June 29, 2023, 08:24:55 pm ---The law in many parts of the world, especially Europe has slowly being shifting towards criminalising anything which might offend a minority.
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If you criminalise vague notions of offence you criminalise everything.
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Yes, but that's maybe the whole point.
Getting people not to really know where they stand relative to the law, always on the fence.
Giving clear rules and enforcing them consistently is how you train animals.
Unclear rules that you sometimes enforce, sometimes not, this is how you turn a pet into a crazy dysfunctional living being. ::)
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