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Amazon accuses customer of racism & shuts down their smart home!
VK3DRB:
I was getting a haircut by a local woman from China. She began a racist rant about about black people in China, and she said all black people there and here cause trouble. I am white Anglo-Saxon, and I quietly commented as she was ranting, "I have son-in-law who is black". She very quickly was lost for words and shut her mouth. And I didn't end up with an inverted Mohawk haircut.
Also recently an acquaintance at a dinner party started a rant about people not speaking English in Australia. I quickly headed it off at the pass by letting her know English is NOT the official language of Australia. In fact, Australia is one of the few countries that does not have an official language. Very few Aussies even know that basic fact. That shut her up.
Seriously, there no room for racism anywhere, because we are of one race... the human race. To remain silent when there is a racist attack by a business or individual, means we are not much better than the racists.
Nominal Animal:
--- Quote from: VK3DRB on July 04, 2023, 01:27:31 pm ---Seriously, there no room for racism anywhere, because we are of one race... the human race. To remain silent when there is a racist attack by a business or individual, means we are not much better than the racists.
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So, do you intend to get her business license revoked, then? Perhaps even deported?
I believe actual racists are best dealt with words myself, especially because nobody seems to agree to what "racism" actually is.
Zero999:
--- Quote from: VK3DRB on July 04, 2023, 01:27:31 pm ---Also recently an acquaintance at a dinner party started a rant about people not speaking English in Australia. I quickly headed it off at the pass by letting her know English is NOT the official language of Australia. In fact, Australia is one of the few countries that does not have an official language. Very few Aussies even know that basic fact. That shut her up.
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I don't see anything racist about that. It's perfectly reasonable for anyone who settling in a new country to learn the most commonly spoken language there, irrespective or it being the official one, or not. If I were planning to move to a new country, I'd do my very best to learn the local language and respect the local customs and culture. I wouldn't want to be a disrespectful foreigner.
gnuarm:
--- Quote from: VK3DRB on July 04, 2023, 01:27:31 pm ---I was getting a haircut by a local woman from China. She began a racist rant about about black people in China, and she said all black people there and here cause trouble. I am white Anglo-Saxon, and I quietly commented as she was ranting, "I have son-in-law who is black". She very quickly was lost for words and shut her mouth. And I didn't end up with an inverted Mohawk haircut.
Also recently an acquaintance at a dinner party started a rant about people not speaking English in Australia. I quickly headed it off at the pass by letting her know English is NOT the official language of Australia. In fact, Australia is one of the few countries that does not have an official language. Very few Aussies even know that basic fact. That shut her up.
Seriously, there no room for racism anywhere, because we are of one race... the human race. To remain silent when there is a racist attack by a business or individual, means we are not much better than the racists.
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That's like in the US, where people talk about the "immigrant" problem and how they should all go "home". I ask where their family is from, which usually gets the name of some city in the US. I push a bit, until they realize what I'm really asking. That usually shuts them up... for a while. After all, the Europeans stole the US from the natives, fair and square!
gnuarm:
--- Quote from: Zero999 on July 04, 2023, 04:41:16 pm ---
--- Quote from: VK3DRB on July 04, 2023, 01:27:31 pm ---Also recently an acquaintance at a dinner party started a rant about people not speaking English in Australia. I quickly headed it off at the pass by letting her know English is NOT the official language of Australia. In fact, Australia is one of the few countries that does not have an official language. Very few Aussies even know that basic fact. That shut her up.
--- End quote ---
I don't see anything racist about that. It's perfectly reasonable for anyone who settling in a new country to learn the most commonly spoken language there, irrespective or it being the official one, or not. If I were planning to move to a new country, I'd do my very best to learn the local language and respect the local customs and culture. I wouldn't want to be a disrespectful foreigner.
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I don't know about other countries, but historically in the US, immigrants were pushed into their own communities and encouraged to remain isolated. A 96 year old friend talks about how around New York each group had their own neighborhood. They were not hostile to one another, but kept at arms length. Each community had something to offer and everyone accepted the others were there to stay. But they remained separate. Many who entered the US had no intention of "assimilating" and never learned the language. They held onto their traditions and language, allowing the next generation to assimilate if they chose.
I can't see anything wrong with that.
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