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General => General Technical Chat => Topic started by: ez24 on May 26, 2016, 05:03:08 am
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Little background:
I bought something on Amazon and it did not fit (a ring for a rifle scope ) and I left a 1 star rating because the ad was wrong. The seller contacted me and confessed they did not know what they were selling. I helped them re-write their ad and deleted my review.
They contacted me via Amazon about this. Well anyway there were many emails between us because I was helping them with their ad, and the emails were getting long. I highlighted some old text to trim the email and hit delete, and immediately I was reading my next email in my inbox. I did not know what happened. Well I had enough emails I tried again and again.
The last one I just highlighted one word and hit delete and the email was gone. No trace of it, not in Trash not in Spam, no where on my computer. It completely disappeared. When I hit the delete key, immediately I read the next email.
My god what is next, an electrical shock, swap team at the door (oh shit I hear a helicopter overhead). I just cannot believe this kind of control over my computer. Can anyone else had this happen or can try this out?
Any ideas on how to stop this?
Edit - I use Yahoo and I did not delete the email - it was automatically deleted without my control
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Any ideas on how to stop this?
Don't delete your emails?
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Any ideas on how to stop this?
Don't delete your emails?
I am not deleting them - Amazon is. I do not want them to be deleted. They just disappear - no warning, no message nothing, they just disappear. How is this possible?
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Is this a troll? Do you not know what the delete key does?
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I highlighted some old text to trim the email and hit delete,...
The last one I just highlighted one word and hit delete and the email was gone. ...
When I hit the delete key, immediately I read the next email.
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Not sure what this has to do with Amazon. Granted, it could be a bug with Yahoo (especially if they don't end up in the trash folder), but then it shouldn't be specific to Amazon emails.
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I am not deleting them - Amazon is. I do not want them to be deleted. They just disappear - no warning, no message nothing, they just disappear. How is this possible?
It's not possible. I think that's the point most users here are making. Either you're hitting a hotkey to archive or delete them or Yahoo Mail (not having used it before, so I'm just guessing) just "assumes" you want to do something with that message and "takes care of it for you".
Amazon doesn't have access to your e-mails. There is no team of crackers at Amazon that go around wiping evidence. Worst case scenario is your computer is infected with a virus/malware and something else is doing the deleting for you, or, (more likely) it's happening because of some "feature" of YMail.
I would first check your keyboard isn't faulty and you're unknowingly hitting SHIFT or CTRL + DELETE instead due to a stuck key.
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Little background:
I bought something on Amazon and it did not fit (a ring for a rifle scope ) and I left a 1 star rating because the ad was wrong. The seller contacted me and confessed they did not know what they were selling. I helped them re-write their ad and deleted my review.
They contacted me via Amazon about this. Well anyway there were many emails between us because I was helping them with their ad, and the emails were getting long. I highlighted some old text to trim the email and hit delete, and immediately I was reading my next email in my inbox. I did not know what happened. Well I had enough emails I tried again and again.
The last one I just highlighted one word and hit delete and the email was gone. No trace of it, not in Trash not in Spam, no where on my computer. It completely disappeared. When I hit the delete key, immediately I read the next email.
My god what is next, an electrical shock, swap team at the door (oh shit I hear a helicopter overhead). I just cannot believe this kind of control over my computer. Can anyone else had this happen or can try this out?
Any ideas on how to stop this?
Edit - I use Yahoo and I did not delete the email - it was automatically deleted without my control
My understanding is you CAN'T edit emails, which have been sent to you.
If you highlight some text in it and hit delete, it DELETES the email (Yahoo).
I just tried it, it says:
Delete Message
Are you sure you want to permanently delete the selected message?
OK Cancel
You may have pop ups blocked and/or changed the settings (options) in yahoo to just delete emails, WITHOUT yes/no confirmation.
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Were you trying to edit an email you received, not making a reply and editing the reply, but actually trying to delete parts of an email in your inbox?
The holes in othrwise smart people's knowledge is often quite surprising.
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Any ideas on how to stop this?
Don't delete your emails?
I am not deleting them - Amazon is. I do not want them to be deleted. They just disappear - no warning, no message nothing, they just disappear. How is this possible?
You made my day, conspiracy!!!
How do they do it?
With your own hands, mind control :-DD
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It is called the 'Cloud'. They are there one minute and gone the next.
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The emails you deleted should be in your Yahoo Mail "Trash" folder. You can move them back to the inbox.
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This comes to mind:
https://youtu.be/zADUIwNwglM?t=1m30s
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So...you had an email in your inbox selected, you hit the delete key, the email was deleted, and you think Amazon did it?
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These comments are really cheering my morning up.
This comes to mind:
https://youtu.be/zADUIwNwglM?t=1m30s
LOL
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THIS happened to me as well. I have Gmail and I always sort electronic PDF bills to the folder "e-bills". Well when I looked at the folder today I noticed there ain't a trace of emails from my purchases from Amazon! All gone! All guarantees gone. E-bay bills are still there, Thomann bills are all there... This is a big time fraud from Amazon! Maybee they are paying Google & other providers to delete their e-mails in order to save money from returns... Could someone check this?
Also e-mails can be HTML formated and I am not sure, but is it possible to set an expiry date somehow?
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Try to use a local Email client and store your email on C:.
I still do not believe it is happening.
Reading this makes me happy since I switched to FastMail (https://www.fastmail.com/).
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https://mashable.com/2018/04/27/new-gmail-expiring-emails-confidential-mode
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Expiring emails just send you a link to a page where the email is kept, they do not send you the actual email. That page can be deleted at any time but you will still have the email you received with the link. Your side has to delete that. Nobody can delete an email from my side over the internet. Only I can do that.
That is one reason I keep my stuff in my computer. There is no "cloud"; there is only computers you have control over and computers that are controlled by others. I prefer to keep my things under my control.
If anyone would send me that type of email I would never get to read it at all. My email client would not download it and I would not even try.
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EDIT:
I misunderstood the original post. Reply (quoted below) doesn't below here, considered it deleted.
I started a new thread instead so as not to hijack someone else's discussion
Rick
It happens to me also - email from AliExpress has been missing; Ordered Aug 8 (multiple), Aug 13, and today Aug 14 - normally I would receive order confirmation email and payment email for each order, but none came for those three days.
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Rick, that seems like a totally different issue from the OP.
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Rick, that seems like a totally different issue from the OP.
Yeah, you are right - thanks for the heads up. I did not read carefully the first time around! I saw missing email and switched gear into wondering why my email was missing... I guess I am not as perfect as I thought...
I will post that as a separate thread.