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Re: amazon enabled wi-fi dishwasher
« Reply #1 on: October 11, 2016, 10:22:32 pm »
I just go the store and get another box of detergent when mine is low.


http://dishwashers.reviewed.com/news/new-ge-dishwasher-integrates-amazon-dash-replenishment?utm_source=usat&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=collab

 :palm: dammit GE! JUST NO!

Do we really want to trust a machine to use our money? What if it malfunctions?
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Re: amazon enabled wi-fi dishwasher
« Reply #2 on: October 11, 2016, 10:25:12 pm »
Do we really want to trust a machine to use our money? What if it malfunctions?

a truck driver will knock on your door with a question where to unload your 5tons of dishwasher salt  :-DD
 

Offline Alexei.Polkhanov

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Re: amazon enabled wi-fi dishwasher
« Reply #3 on: October 11, 2016, 10:42:10 pm »
So instead of adding better beefier motor or pump they added cheap, useless whistle like thing. Works on some idiots I guess. Most marketing books have photo of Pavlov dog somewhere on first 12 pages.  ;) Add blue animated LED screen and saliva is flowing ....
 

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Re: amazon enabled wi-fi dishwasher
« Reply #4 on: October 11, 2016, 11:36:38 pm »
I didn't realize GE had sold their appliance division. Back in the 80s I drove delivery for a printing company that did their employee newsletter. I delivered many bundles to their various Appliance Park buildings once a week.
 

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Re: amazon enabled wi-fi dishwasher
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Re: amazon enabled wi-fi dishwasher
« Reply #6 on: October 12, 2016, 12:05:09 am »
Do we really want to trust a machine to use our money? What if it malfunctions?

a truck driver will knock on your door with a question where to unload your 5tons of dishwasher salt  :-DD

I totally picture it, a cube truck backing up in your driveway *beeeep beeeeep beeeeep beeeeep* and lowering a gate with skids,  with another cube truck parked on the side as a guy comes out with a clipboard. "yes, we have a delivery for you".  :-DD
 

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Re: amazon enabled wi-fi dishwasher
« Reply #7 on: October 12, 2016, 04:18:25 am »
It just a small upgrade from these WiFi reorder tags:
https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=sr_1_1_hso_sc_smartcategory_1?rh=n%3A10667898011%2Ck%3Adash&keywords=dash

I can just image young children finding the button and repeatedly pressing it (just because kids like buttons), next minute, your credit card has been charged thousands of dollars and you have a lifetime supply of washing powder.

Just another example where things that don't need solving are "solved" with yet another pointless gadget for the lazy. Not to mention, the dishwasher tablets costs far more than just your standard powder-in-a-bottle, even if you buy the genuine Finish brand stuff like I do.

80x Finish Powerball dishwasher tablets = $34.99 = 80 loads @ 44 cents per load.

2KG Finish dishwasher powder = $18.45 = ~100 loads* @ 18.5 cents per load. (And you have the bonus of being able to adjust dosage rates for half-loads etc...)

Of course, these figures are just for your standard (yet, still reputable brand-name) products. Checking Woolworths online, you can pay up to 77 cents per tablet for Finish tablets with baking soda. Add rinse aid, water and electricity costs on top of that. This is where Australia have it right with unit pricing. Hopefully more people actually do the maths and work the true cost of things out before they fork out money purely based on emotion, pretty packaging and gimmicks.

That said, I don't suggest skimping on dishwasher powder either. Yes you can get the bog-standard crap at a few dollars per kilo, but it's mostly full of fine sand and other non-dissolving fillers that'll scratch up all your glassware in no time (if in doubt, test a small amount of powder by running it through a paper coffee filter and see what crap is left behind, the good stuff should leave nothing at all at the top of the filter).



* Based on the manufacturers recommended full dose of 20 grams (and as indicated by the fill line in the cap).
 

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Re: amazon enabled wi-fi dishwasher
« Reply #8 on: October 12, 2016, 04:24:14 am »
some people are either too lazy or forgetful.

I mean what if you stopped using it, will it still order more soap?
 

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Re: amazon enabled wi-fi dishwasher
« Reply #9 on: October 12, 2016, 04:29:57 am »
Wait...we forgot one important question...what brand of dish soap does it buy?

EDIT:
Full
*fill sensor failure*
*intermittent fault*
Empty
*intermittent fault*
Full
*intermittent fault*
Empty
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"No, seriously! I just bought dish soap!"
*figures it out* >:( :rant:

*News*
"A report came in this morning of a dishwashing machine flying out of the window of an appartment complex..." :-DD
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Re: amazon enabled wi-fi dishwasher
« Reply #10 on: October 12, 2016, 05:07:38 am »
WIFI Enabled = Going to be used to DDOS websites when amazon stops updating the firmware.
 

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Re: amazon enabled wi-fi dishwasher
« Reply #11 on: October 12, 2016, 05:31:39 am »
OTOH *some* web enabled appliances would be worth having.  Imagine a college dorm or apartment building where, if you scan a QR code, the washers and driers can page your smartphone 5 minutes before the load is done . . . . .
 

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Re: amazon enabled wi-fi dishwasher
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Re: amazon enabled wi-fi dishwasher
« Reply #13 on: October 12, 2016, 10:00:17 am »
Personally what I'd love to see - but will never happen because it does not cater to the drones of sheep, is WIRED IP based appliances where it supports standard protocols like HTTP, SSH and SNMP and can provide useful health information on the appliance as well as a web based interface to do/see stuff.  Something that runs without any cloud crap or require any proprietary apps.  Basically it would just have a mini server and be more or less customizable and run fully stand alone.  If you don't plug it in, you can still use the appliance, but it is also 100% offline.

Imagine something like your furnace for example, you could monitor all sorts of health parameters and set it up in a monitoring program to fire alerts if say, the air pressure is too high/low etc.  Possibilities are endless.

But instead most of the IoT stuff is mosly cloud based crap to get you to install some app that is probably farming your data at same time.
 

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Re: amazon enabled wi-fi dishwasher
« Reply #14 on: October 12, 2016, 10:10:00 am »
British man in 12-hour struggle to make single cup of tea with Wi-Fi kettle
http://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/british-man-in-12hour-struggle-to-make-single-cup-of-tea-with-wifi-kettle-a3366721.html
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3 hrs later and still no tea. Mandatory recalibration caused wifi base-station reset, now port-scanning network to find where kettle is now.
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Re: amazon enabled wi-fi dishwasher
« Reply #15 on: October 12, 2016, 10:52:37 am »
British man in 12-hour struggle to make single cup of tea with Wi-Fi kettle
http://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/british-man-in-12hour-struggle-to-make-single-cup-of-tea-with-wifi-kettle-a3366721.html
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3 hrs later and still no tea. Mandatory recalibration caused wifi base-station reset, now port-scanning network to find where kettle is now.


are they trying to tell you that the expensive base they provided, which is actually sitting on the same hard flat surface is not level enough ?  :-DD
 

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Re: amazon enabled wi-fi dishwasher
« Reply #16 on: October 12, 2016, 01:49:29 pm »
People should be embarrassed at spending money on this kind of garbage. Most are obviously little more than a scam.
 

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Re: amazon enabled wi-fi dishwasher
« Reply #17 on: October 12, 2016, 09:30:13 pm »
The people who buy things like this are probably quite rich, and when you are earning above a certain level then you do not want to have to deal with the daily dross that everyone else puts up with.
So you buy cars that tell the garage when they need servicing, fridges that tell you what to make with the contents and appliances that automatically reorder whatever they need to continue functioning. Heating adjusts for the weather, Roombas clean the floor, cars drive themselves, even shaving supplies arrive on a monthly schedule so you don't even have to consider if something is running low.
The Japanese have even removed the need to wipe your own arse.

The internet is basically fulfilling the household staffing levels of the Edwardian era.

 

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Re: amazon enabled wi-fi dishwasher
« Reply #18 on: October 13, 2016, 05:25:59 am »
The people who buy things like this are probably quite rich, and when you are earning above a certain level then you do not want to have to deal with the daily dross that everyone else puts up with.
So you buy cars that tell the garage when they need servicing, fridges that tell you what to make with the contents and appliances that automatically reorder whatever they need to continue functioning. Heating adjusts for the weather, Roombas clean the floor, cars drive themselves, even shaving supplies arrive on a monthly schedule so you don't even have to consider if something is running low.
The Japanese have even removed the need to wipe your own arse.

The internet is basically fulfilling the household staffing levels of the Edwardian era.

Don't forget wireless sex machines!

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/hush-plug-control-via-smartphone-from-anywhere-adult#/
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Re: amazon enabled wi-fi dishwasher
« Reply #19 on: October 13, 2016, 01:25:39 pm »
There is always some sucker that will buy this, along with many other "labour saving" devices. Never mind the issues they can create take up more time than they save.

If Samsung made something like this, you would get SMS from your dishwasher to say it was on fire* but it had called the fire department already, and filed a warranty claim. I'm sure that would make like easier for it's owner.

* Samsung also had those washing machines that caught fire last year.
 

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Re: amazon enabled wi-fi dishwasher
« Reply #20 on: October 13, 2016, 01:47:48 pm »
Gadgets for the sake of gadgets.  Are they trying to tell me it's too much trouble to pick up a box of dishwasher detergent when I go to the grocery store.  I doubt I'll ever let my fridge or pantry order food for me so I don't see trips to the grocery store becoming obsolete any time soon.  Now self-diagnostics are another thing.  That's actually useful information.
 

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Re: amazon enabled wi-fi dishwasher
« Reply #21 on: October 13, 2016, 05:19:54 pm »
when I go to the grocery store. 
You have time to go to the grocery store, you are not the target market - someone sunning themselves in Barts is.
If I were rich I'd buy three.

These are not "labour saving devices", they just reduce the time people spend currently thinking about a machine and accommodating its current limitations.

Look at the current Tesla, you press a button and it drives over to where you are standing, it unlocks the door and opens it for you, you sit down and it closes the door for you, then it drives you home. That's removing all the small things you once had to do because the machine wasn't intelligent enough to do them for you.
It's just replicating the role of valet or chauffeur staff.

Domestic androids won't simply be ironing our clothes, they will be turning down our bedsheets and picking up our socks.
 


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