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Amazon “Fire TV” remotes - DESIGNED to be thrown away!
eti:
--- Quote from: tooki on January 10, 2022, 06:22:16 pm ---There are numerous videos and galleries of other people opening those without shredding them to bits like you did. So despite them being glued, something about your technique sucked.
Remote controls are, generally speaking, among the most reliable pieces of electronics we use, and simultaneously one of the cheapest to manufacture.
Labor costs time. Suppose it takes 30 minutes to repair a remote control (when you include diagnosis, repair, retesting, paperwork, etc). A typical going rate for electronics repair in a developed country might be around $100/hr. So that’s $50 in labor right there. Who in their right mind would pay that when a brand new one costs that much or less??
They’re not morons for not worrying about repairability on a product that almost never fails, and stands a nearly 0% chance of being repaired if it does.
There are some truly egregious instances of wasteful non-repairability, but this truly does not qualify.
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You clearly lack the ghastly experience of having owned a fire tv & remote. It’s the biggest piece of junk ever, being buggy, laggy, battery draining, tactile keys go mushy very quickly, the fire tv stops responding, the remote will randomly decide to oscillate-key press (repeats play/pause/play/pause infinitely, many many times a second until you press it again to break it out of the loop.
Another demonstration of Amazon being utterly clueless on how to design products. They’re utterly ghastly.
eti:
--- Quote from: Sal Ammoniac on January 10, 2022, 11:40:43 pm ---
--- Quote from: edavid on January 10, 2022, 11:18:20 pm ---
--- Quote from: Sal Ammoniac on January 10, 2022, 10:41:19 pm ---This is how it works: Amazon designs and sells a Fire TV device, like the Cube. It mostly works fine and the UI is responsive. They then come out with a series of newer models with updated, faster CPUs and more RAM. They add new features to the software that takes advantage of the increased CPU power and additional RAM... But now the older devices run like dogs and the UI is slow and laggy and nearly unusable. The only viable solution is to upgrade to the latest Fire TV device.
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I am still using a Fire TV Stick from 2018, and I haven't noticed any performance problems in the UI or any of the streaming apps that I use. Of course it's connected to a 720p TV :-//
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You're lucky. I had a Fire TV Cube about two years old that gradually got slower and more laggy with each new FW update until I ditched it for the Shield Pro. The last straw was the complete UI overhaul that came out a few months ago that was very poorly designed and implemented. It's almost like they hired an expert on user experience to design their new UI and then did the exact opposite of what he recommended. And then there's all the bugs and crashes... :palm:
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Yeah, the new UI (it’s different just for the sake of being different!) is such an utter mess.
eti:
--- Quote from: Martin Miranda on January 10, 2022, 06:25:56 pm ---why are they using metal dome switches with rubber.... |O
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Because they’re Amazon, the same brainless wonders that did this (and there’s countless more examples of this idiocy): https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/uk-news/its-clearly-ridiculous-amazon-slammed-20285894
eti:
--- Quote from: MrMobodies on January 06, 2022, 06:19:26 am ---Did that just stopped working?
I have never known a remote to stop working ever.
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With respect, there’s ~7BN people on earth, and you’re a sample count of ONE person. I agree that IR remotes are very reliable on the whole, but even then I’ve got an LG which is kept immaculately clean, and yet the buttons of which decide to stop being tactile, or responding.
edavid:
--- Quote from: eti on January 11, 2022, 01:22:22 am ---You clearly lack the ghastly experience of having owned a fire tv & remote. It’s the biggest piece of junk ever, being buggy, laggy, battery draining, tactile keys go mushy very quickly, the fire tv stops responding, the remote will randomly decide to oscillate-key press (repeats play/pause/play/pause infinitely, many many times a second until you press it again to break it out of the loop.
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I guess I am lucky, I've never really had those problems. I've had one Fire TV stick randomly complain it's not paired to the remote, even though the remote still works :-// Otherwise they've been pretty solid, definitely above average for consumer electronics. I love that CEC works well, even with some pretty crappy TVs. Voice control often works too.
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