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--- Quote from: ebastler on August 15, 2020, 08:14:23 am ---How do you obtain an "unregistered device" in the Kindle system anyway? Aren't they always pre-registered to your account when you buy a device? --- End quote --- When you buy a kindle from Amazon it doesn't come "pre-registered". You have to assign it a "name" and you have to register it to your Amazon account as "kindle device". You can have more than one device, but you also have to specify if it's "personal" or "family". If you purchase a new Kindle and transfer ebooks from computer to it, well ... technically it's "unregistered", thus it will refuse to open DRM protected ebooks, but if you transfer files from the computer and the device it's able to open them ... well, they are for sure DRM-free. Amazon also allows to share ebooks with your significant other. Two options are possible: With "Family" Amazon allows two adults in the same family to share the ebooks they buy with one another. Only two adults, and you must be in the same family. With "Personal", you can loan out a Kindle ebook that you purchased from the Amazon Kindle store with a friend. It's a restricted option, but if ‘Loan this title’ is on the list, you’re in business as you can click Loan this title, and doing so will take you to a page that lets you send the book to the friend of your choosing, via their email address. Your Kindle ebooks can be lent out for a 14-day period, during you won’t have access to the title yourself—just like if you’d lent a book to a pal from the shelf in your living room. |
| ebastler:
--- Quote from: 0db on August 15, 2020, 10:41:41 am ---When you buy a kindle from Amazon it doesn't come "pre-registered". You have to assign it a "name" and you have to register it to your Amazon account as "kindle device". --- End quote --- Hmm, maybe it's handled differently in different parts of the world, or has changed over time. I am pretty sure the Kindles we got were pre-registered, but that was several years ago. --- Quote ---Amazon also allows to share ebooks with your significant other. Two options are possible: [...] --- End quote --- If there were no DRM, as you claimed earlier, you would be able to give copies of your ebooks to anyone, without Amazon having to "allow" anything. So there clearly is DRM protection on the Kindle ebooks, right? |
| 0db:
--- Quote from: ebastler on August 15, 2020, 11:42:10 am ---Hmm, maybe it's handled differently in different parts of the world, or has changed over time. I am pretty sure the Kindles we got were pre-registered, but that was several years ago. --- End quote --- Registered to whom? And with which device-name? And what if you want to purchase a Kindle to give someone a gift? To me "pre-registering" doesn't make any sense, and it's not what I received from Amazon with my last two KindlePaperWhite purchases, of which, one of them was actually a gift for a friend. --- Quote from: ebastler on August 15, 2020, 11:42:10 am ---If there were no DRM, as you claimed earlier --- End quote --- I clearly wrote it: mostly of my ebook come already DRM unprotected because I can copy them from my kindle to my computer and read them without any problem as well as I can share them, and this also applies to a brand new not yet registered Kindle device. Then I offered some alternatives and possibilities about sharing ebooks: * (DRM-free) -> ePubor/Calibre or similar to remove the DRM protection:: not exactly "legal" * (DRM-free) -> attach a pdf file to an email, send it to your Kindle email address and it will be available on your Kindle:: perfectly legal * (DRM-free) -> buy from Smashwords and get DRM-free MOBI files directly from publishers or authors::perfectly legal * (DRM-free) -> buy an ePub from publishers or authors, then convert .epub into .mobi via Calibre for the Kindle to read:: perfectly legal * (DRM-protected) -> Amazon Family or Loan eBooks to a friend:: perfectly legal I opened this topic to talk about the zone/region limitation (solved thanks to Smashwords). Not about DRMs :D |
| ebastler:
--- Quote from: 0db on August 15, 2020, 12:30:37 pm ---Registered to whom? And with which device-name? And what if you want to purchase a Kindle to give someone a gift? --- End quote --- Pre-registered to the same account which was used to buy the device. I didn't say that you cannot change the name, or change the registration to another account. I just stated that -- in my experience, which may be incomplete or outdated -- there is no such thing as an "unregistered" Kindle. --- Quote ---I clearly wrote it: mostly of my ebook come already DRM unprotected because I can copy them from my kindle to my computer and read them without any problem as well as I can share them, and this also applies to a brand new not yet registered Kindle device. --- End quote --- And I challenged that conclusion, because (a) the Kinde reader on your computer would be connected to the same user account under which the ebook was bought, and (b) I didn't think there is a "not yet registered" Kindle device, as discussed above. --- Quote ---I opened this topic to talk about the zone/region limitation (solved thanks to Smashwords). Not about DRMs :D --- End quote --- But you don't "own" the thread in a way where you could limit which topics get discussed. 8) And you did talk about DRM, didn't you? |
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