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tggzzz:

--- Quote from: ucanel on August 17, 2020, 07:39:31 pm ---I am an EE.
First year of the collage at the C lessons
i think that the first thing that i will fail at my education life will be the programming,
indeed that happened, i failed,
at the summer school exams i memorised 10 pages of programs that likely to be asked,
i passed the exams knowing nothing about programming.

Now i am an embedded programmer,
i love programming, i love problem solving.

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That is possible for a technician, not an engineer.

You should read "Profession" by Isaac Asimov, since it is directly relevant to that. I've previously posted a link to it.

tggzzz:

--- Quote from: b_force on August 17, 2020, 08:13:56 pm ---
--- Quote from: ucanel on August 17, 2020, 07:39:31 pm ---
at school exams i memorised 10 pages of programs that likely to be asked,
i passed the exams knowing nothing about programming.


--- End quote ---
And that, ladies and gentlemen, is a perfect way to get ACTUALLY a degree without knowing anything.

No offence towards you obviously, happy you found something you like  :-+

--- End quote ---

And that, ladies and gentlemen, is why some institutions and degrees are more valued than others.

b_force:

--- Quote from: tggzzz on August 17, 2020, 09:15:23 pm ---
--- Quote from: b_force on August 17, 2020, 08:13:56 pm ---
--- Quote from: ucanel on August 17, 2020, 07:39:31 pm ---
at school exams i memorised 10 pages of programs that likely to be asked,
i passed the exams knowing nothing about programming.


--- End quote ---
And that, ladies and gentlemen, is a perfect way to get ACTUALLY a degree without knowing anything.

No offence towards you obviously, happy you found something you like  :-+

--- End quote ---

And that, ladies and gentlemen, is why some institutions and degrees are more valued than others.

--- End quote ---
Maybe in the UK, but I have never seen people bothering about it.
As long as you have a Master of Bachelor of Engineering/Science people believe and assume you have some knowledge.

coppice:

--- Quote from: b_force on August 17, 2020, 09:23:10 pm ---
--- Quote from: tggzzz on August 17, 2020, 09:15:23 pm ---
--- Quote from: b_force on August 17, 2020, 08:13:56 pm ---
--- Quote from: ucanel on August 17, 2020, 07:39:31 pm ---
at school exams i memorised 10 pages of programs that likely to be asked,
i passed the exams knowing nothing about programming.


--- End quote ---
And that, ladies and gentlemen, is a perfect way to get ACTUALLY a degree without knowing anything.

No offence towards you obviously, happy you found something you like  :-+

--- End quote ---

And that, ladies and gentlemen, is why some institutions and degrees are more valued than others.

--- End quote ---
Maybe in the UK, but I have never seen people bothering about it.
As long as you have a Master of Bachelor of Engineering/Science people believe and assume you have some knowledge.

--- End quote ---
People have always wanted to know where you got your degree in some countries, like the US. There was a time when people in the UK didn't focus much on where you got your degree. They were mostly interested in whether you got a 1st, upper 2nd, etc. Now people do want to know where you studied in the UK. Anyone that didn't attend a Russell Group university (a group of about 40 old and trusted universities) is treated with great skepticism.

b_force:

--- Quote from: coppice on August 17, 2020, 09:30:01 pm ---People have always wanted to know where you got your degree in some countries, like the US. There was a time when people in the UK didn't focus much on where you got your degree. They were mostly interested in whether you got a 1st, upper 2nd, etc. Now people do want to know where you studied in the UK. Anyone that didn't attend a Russell Group university (a group of about 40 old and trusted universities) is treated with great skepticism.

--- End quote ---
Interesting, never came across these experiences, nor other people I know

Personally when I look for candidates I don't even bother looking for a degree anymore.
I just haven't seen any correlation between having a degree vs knowledge, work mentality and skills.
Well obviously you're also not going to just take a random person, but what I am trying to say (also with my earlier posts), is that are other ways to gain knowledge
For some people it's even more just a prestige thing than anything else.

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