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Re: Analog Devices buys Linear Technology
« Reply #75 on: August 06, 2016, 06:18:45 am »
When I worked there, the web guys and the Field App guys were very interested in making the site useful.  They took input willingly from everybody - especially engineers

What ADI need to understand - and this may be a surprise to them - that engineering is not done on smartphones. I really doubt engineers would say - hey i want that stupid carousel banner on the front page and please make it huge to make sure the useful stuff can not be easily found.
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Re: Analog Devices buys Linear Technology
« Reply #76 on: August 06, 2016, 10:33:18 am »
I remember talking to one application engineer (somebody from austrian site) on ADI seminar. I told him that I like ADI products, but I don't use them, because their web is harsh and I prefer LT instead.
He agreed with me and he dislike their new web too.

Could Dave make some video about websites ? I would love to hear some rant about useless webs from Dave, rather than pointless videos about free energy and solar roadways (waste of time making it and watching it).
« Last Edit: August 06, 2016, 10:39:28 am by razberik »
 
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Re: Analog Devices buys Linear Technology
« Reply #77 on: August 06, 2016, 11:56:11 am »
For those of you downloading all of the LT notes if you compiled them onto a file on dropbox that would be sweet!
Put them in a torrent. That way you don't exceed Dropbox share limit.
 

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Re: Analog Devices buys Linear Technology
« Reply #78 on: August 07, 2016, 12:23:43 am »
Then they should not have changed it in the first place. AD, ST etc used to have well functioning web interfaces, then they started to dick a round multiple times.. Dont see the point of customers have to tell them they fucked it up. Yet again a management problem, as always. >:(
Wow! You're absolutely right.  The concept of customer feedback is clearly inapplicable.  I can see that a more rational method would be to assume that the web designers will magically intuit how someone may or may not want to use the site.  I totally agree that the reasonable, effective approach of pissing, moaning and complaining about it rather than taking initiative by providing constructive criticism that may result in improvement is ingenious.  It's an exemplary plan.  Let us hope that the nebulous, non-sentient entity known as "management" does not thwart this enviable construct.

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Re: Analog Devices buys Linear Technology
« Reply #79 on: August 07, 2016, 01:56:52 am »
Wow! You're absolutely right.  The concept of customer feedback is clearly inapplicable.  I can see that a more rational method would be to assume that the web designers will magically intuit how someone may or may not want to use the site.  I totally agree that the reasonable, effective approach of pissing, moaning and complaining about it rather than taking initiative by providing constructive criticism that may result in improvement is ingenious.  It's an exemplary plan.  Let us hope that the nebulous, non-sentient entity known as "management" does not thwart this enviable construct.

I tried that but Steve told me I was holding it wrong and that skeuomorphic interfaces were the future.
 

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Re: Analog Devices buys Linear Technology
« Reply #80 on: August 07, 2016, 02:11:46 am »

When I worked there, the web guys and the Field App guys were very interested in making the site useful.  They took input willingly from everybody - especially engineers.  I've been gone a few years, but with the web being a central point nowadays, I can't believe that if all you dissatisfied folks expressed your frustration, ADI would ignore it.  The web presence is just too valuable these days to intentionally piss folks off.


Which site did you work at? Internally the site has had the piss taken out of it by everyone not of mid-level management.
 

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Re: Analog Devices buys Linear Technology
« Reply #81 on: August 08, 2016, 03:28:42 pm »
Could Dave make some video about websites ? I would love to hear some rant about useless webs from Dave, rather than pointless videos about free energy and solar roadways (waste of time making it and watching it).

This could be a very interesting and dynamic topic. There are all sorts of competing interests, and many ideas about what constitutes best practices as they apply for the various interested parties.

For instance, I tend to use Digi-Key for searching for parts, instead of the manufacturer web sites. If I need to search for parts not on Digi-Key then I look at the specific sites, but some clearly are easier to use. For me the worst are those that require a big recomputation when one small change to the parameters is done, and everything is run through some kind of local Java applet.

It seems that a lot of Chinese and Taiwanese web sites have a sketchy feeling to them, while German web sites are difficult to search and navigate. (Phoenix, Turck).

Eventually my part lists get run through a web site to check on lifetime and supplier status. This drives a somewhat iterative process of narrowing in on functionality vs. availability.
 

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Re: Analog Devices buys Linear Technology
« Reply #82 on: August 08, 2016, 03:33:18 pm »
For instance, I tend to use Digi-Key for searching for parts, instead of the manufacturer web sites. If I need to search for parts not on Digi-Key then I look at the specific sites, but some clearly are easier to use. For me the worst are those that require a big recomputation when one small change to the parameters is done, and everything is run through some kind of local Java applet.

I use DK and Mouser search only on simple parts. On ICs I always use mfg website. DK and Mouser's searching engines simply lack too much info compared to mfg websites.

It seems that a lot of Chinese and Taiwanese web sites have a sketchy feeling to them.

If you make super thin margin, you won't bother make a pretty website. After all, cheap manufacturers usually have very specific, stable, targeted customers that only cares about quality and cost. Easy to use and engineer friendly are not important in mass volume productions as long as quality and cost benefits can be justified.
 

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Re: Analog Devices buys Linear Technology
« Reply #83 on: August 08, 2016, 04:52:44 pm »
If you make super thin margin, you won't bother make a pretty website. After all, cheap manufacturers usually have very specific, stable, targeted customers that only cares about quality and cost. Easy to use and engineer friendly are not important in mass volume productions as long as quality and cost benefits can be justified.

Easy to use and engineer friendly are also not important when marketing gets ahold of the web site and turns it into a pretty sales brochure without content.  If you need technical documentation, then they are not interested in selling to you.

I think TI plays the dark interface game.  They have too many older parts which never show up in their selection guides but which can be found if you search for the part number.  That strikes me as a way for sales to drive unknowing customers to more expensive parts.  That may be shrewd, but it also means they cannot be trusted which is hardly new with TI.
 
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Re: Analog Devices buys Linear Technology
« Reply #84 on: August 08, 2016, 10:45:29 pm »
Wow! You're absolutely right.  The concept of customer feedback is clearly inapplicable.  I can see that a more rational method would be to assume that the web designers will magically intuit how someone may or may not want to use the site.  I totally agree that the reasonable, effective approach of pissing, moaning and complaining about it rather than taking initiative by providing constructive criticism that may result in improvement is ingenious.  It's an exemplary plan.  Let us hope that the nebulous, non-sentient entity known as "management" does not thwart this enviable construct.
Cheers
Good grief, you are from the hipster generation!

One point i could imagine but im to tired to right now is "reinvention of web interfaces is to lure new clueless customers they improved while old timers know how things was in the past=better.  Nor is there such thing as a "free wheeling web designers" that can do whatever interface they want at the fot of a elephant, they are all under the marketing department dictates at the top of the elephant.

ST for example, everyone who deal with ST knows their forum engine is utter crap, and everyone have constructively complained and suggested tons of ideas "for years". Now do ST web designers listen? No! why? Because the marketing department "say so". Yet ST used to have a well working forum engine "for years". Now, why did they screw up? Who's fault was it? And most fun of all is the ST people who maintain the crap is also pissed we have been told and want it go away. So i will give you 10 dullars if you go to ST and can make them change, if you cant you owe me 100dullars!

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The web presence is just too valuable these days to intentionally piss folks off.
And yet they do over and over and over and you cant figure it out, how peculiar!

Bad web interfaces, bad data sheets, poor product, yadda, yadda, yadda etc, etc, we all are affected by it on a daily basis from ........insert mfg.....you suggest that 500million engineers should join in gigantic group hug and go bombard ...insert mfg......with constructive complaints?
You must be crazzzzy, i rather spend my time to actually design and engineer, i dont have time to point out "obviousness" to a elephant!

Im also all in for Dave go ape over mfg web interfaces from a engineering perspective.
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Re: Analog Devices buys Linear Technology
« Reply #85 on: August 15, 2016, 01:57:32 am »
While we are on the topic of website bashing... I really hate how when I click on view datasheet it takes me to another webpage where I have to click some more text for it to actually show me the datasheet PDF....  ADI and LTC are both better in that respect.
 

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Re: Analog Devices buys Linear Technology
« Reply #86 on: March 10, 2017, 02:00:25 pm »
Hi group,

The day has arrived:



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Re: Analog Devices buys Linear Technology
« Reply #87 on: March 10, 2017, 07:42:44 pm »
How long before one of the names is taken down?
 

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Re: Analog Devices buys Linear Technology
« Reply #88 on: March 10, 2017, 08:13:38 pm »
Why does ADI need regulatory approval from a Chinese regulator?
 

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Re: Analog Devices buys Linear Technology
« Reply #89 on: March 10, 2017, 09:38:32 pm »
Hi,

You have to get regulatory approval for all the major markets that you sell into. This is anti-trust, monopolies type stuff.

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Re: Analog Devices buys Linear Technology
« Reply #90 on: March 10, 2017, 11:06:35 pm »
For those of you downloading all of the LT notes if you compiled them onto a file on dropbox that would be sweet!

If you have linux you can run this to download all the Application Notes in the website. It's only 165Mb.

wget -qk http://www.linear.com/designtools/app_notes.php -O linear.html && cat linear.html | grep -o '<a .*href=.*>' | sed -e 's/<a/\n<a/g' | sed -e 's/<a .*href=['"'"'"]//' -e 's/["'"'"'].*$//' -e '/^$/ d' | grep 'docs' > dwnlst.txt && wget -i dwnlst.txt

 
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Re: Analog Devices buys Linear Technology
« Reply #91 on: March 10, 2017, 11:16:00 pm »
I don't like seeing these buy outs but seems to happen in every industry these days.   Capitalism at work.

 

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Re: Analog Devices buys Linear Technology
« Reply #92 on: March 10, 2017, 11:18:20 pm »
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wget -qk [url=http://www.linear.com/designtools/app_notes.php]http://www.linear.com/designtools/app_notes.php[/url] -O linear.html && cat linear.html | grep -o '<a .*href=.*>' | sed -e 's/<a/\n<a/g' | sed -e 's/<a .*href=['"'"'"]//' -e 's/["'"'"'].*$//' -e '/^$/ d' | grep 'docs' > dwnlst.txt && wget -i dwnlst.txtToo bad it omits the ".pdf" and the actual filename.
 
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Re: Analog Devices buys Linear Technology
« Reply #93 on: March 10, 2017, 11:23:54 pm »
For those of you downloading all of the LT notes if you compiled them onto a file on dropbox that would be sweet!

If you have linux you can run this to download all the Application Notes in the website. It's only 165Mb.

wget -qk http://www.linear.com/designtools/app_notes.php -O linear.html && cat linear.html | grep -o '<a .*href=.*>' | sed -e 's/<a/\n<a/g' | sed -e 's/<a .*href=['"'"'"]//' -e 's/["'"'"'].*$//' -e '/^$/ d' | grep 'docs' > dwnlst.txt && wget -i dwnlst.txt

Brilliant! I have a Linux NAS box and the App Notes are downloading perfectly. Thanks!
 
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Re: Analog Devices buys Linear Technology
« Reply #94 on: March 11, 2017, 02:09:25 am »
Too bad it omits the ".pdf" and the actual filename.

Oops!! I'm sorry. Perhaps I posted too soon. This command will rename all files in a folder.

Attention: Make sure that there are no other files that you don't want to rename in the folder where you've downloaded the files and get inside the folder with: cd "folder name" without quotes.

This is a massive rename command. Please check everything first.

rename 's/$/.pdf/' *
 

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Re: Analog Devices buys Linear Technology
« Reply #95 on: March 11, 2017, 07:26:25 am »
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The day has arrived:
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What a shame!  :(
LT made very good products.
My English can be pretty bad, so suggestions are welcome. ;)
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Re: Analog Devices buys Linear Technology
« Reply #96 on: March 13, 2017, 12:30:45 am »
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wget -qk [url=http://www.linear.com/designtools/app_notes.php]http://www.linear.com/designtools/app_notes.php[/url] -O linear.html && cat linear.html | grep -o '<a .*href=.*>' | sed -e 's/<a/\n<a/g' | sed -e 's/<a .*href=['"'"'"]//' -e 's/["'"'"'].*$//' -e '/^$/ d' | grep 'docs' > dwnlst.txt && wget -i dwnlst.txtToo bad it omits the ".pdf" and the actual filename.

I'm sorry for the delay. I've found a better URL to parse. This command creates a download script called linear.sh. You need to execute it only one time. Then you only need to execute linear.sh as many times you want to download the app notes.

It downloads the application notes with their real file name and also takes their tittle for the final file name.

wget isn't very friendly for bulk downloading and rename the output at the same time.

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wget -k http://www.linear.com/designtools/doc_list.php?dt=2 -O /tmp/linear.txt && cat /tmp/linear.txt | grep  -o 'href=.*docs.*</a>' | sed -e 's/href="/wget /' -e 's/"//' -e 's/>/ -O "/' -e 's/<[^>]\+>//g' -e 's/$/.pdf"/' > linear.sh && bash linear.sh
I hope you like it
 
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Re: Analog Devices buys Linear Technology
« Reply #97 on: March 13, 2017, 01:18:00 am »
I just bit the bullet and renamed all the files:
 

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Re: Analog Devices buys Linear Technology
« Reply #98 on: March 13, 2017, 11:23:10 am »
I just bit the bullet and renamed all the files:

You didn't know for sure if I would post something better.
 

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Re: Analog Devices buys Linear Technology
« Reply #99 on: March 13, 2017, 11:54:08 am »
I just bit the bullet and renamed all the files:

You didn't know for sure if I would post something better.
It would have been smarter to wait another day. A pretty clever command line.
 
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