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Another dangerous Amazon product
woofy:
--- Quote from: antenna on November 13, 2023, 03:45:49 pm ---Apparently, the cure for an outlet that is so worn out that it cannot hold the plug is to tape the plug into the outlet. Does Amazon sell these in other countries or are they only trying to burn down the USA? There are so many products out there now that are just scary.
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Are deliberately trying to get folks to type "snug plug" into amazon's search bar? :-DD
wraper:
--- Quote from: PapierzToaletowy on November 13, 2023, 04:59:01 pm ---
--- Quote from: wraper on November 13, 2023, 04:53:48 pm ---
--- Quote from: PapierzToaletowy on November 13, 2023, 04:45:55 pm ---
--- Quote from: antenna on November 13, 2023, 03:45:49 pm ---Apparently, the cure for an outlet that is so worn out that it cannot hold the plug is to tape the plug into the outlet.
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Indeed it's stupid. The right cure is to migrate from those abysmal NEMA connectors to the one and only CEE 7/7 (and 7/16 or 7/17 where applicable).
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You're not allowed to do that in US. Nor locally purchased devices have such plug.
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Just because you're "not allowed" doesn't mean you cannot do that.
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Unlike in Latvia where nobody cares about that in existing buildings and likely Poland too, you can get a very hefty fine for that in US. EDIT: and good luck with home insurance.
tom66:
--- Quote from: Siwastaja on November 13, 2023, 04:54:28 pm ---So you are seriously suggesting that an entire country should transition from ancient, crappy and dangerous plug design into another ancient, crappy and equally dangerous plug design, the one which required the legislation to limit EV/plug in hybrid charging to mere 8A, half of the rated current, because of all the fires that ensued when people tried to use the sockets and plugs at manufacturer's advertised ratings? Give me a break, why don't we all transition into one common plug/socket - namely the UK one (which is specifically fun to step on).
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What legislation is that? Schuko portable EV chargers run at 12 amps, 75% of the 16 amp rating. That's what VW ship with their European cars...
rstofer:
US Hospital Grade devices must meet the attached standard. There is a similar standard for commercial grade (including residential)
https://www.stayonline.com/product-resources/hospital-grade-plug-and-receptacles.asp
bd139:
--- Quote from: PapierzToaletowy on November 13, 2023, 05:07:11 pm ---
--- Quote from: AVGresponding on November 13, 2023, 04:59:19 pm ---Clearly, the US should upgrade to a BS1363 plug and socket system. :popcorn:
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NEMA connectors are chabuduo designs from the ancient past.
British plugs are a prime example of design committee suffering from health & safety variant of OCD.
CEE 7/7 is the pragmatic compromise.
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Yeah yeah yeah shucko / CEE7 / blah blah blah. No thanks.
Trying to unplug my charger and the socket comes off the wall and look what's in there - things to touch! :palm: :palm: :palm: :palm: :palm:
Also generally used in places where electrical "safety" looks like this
Those are two separate places for ref over 100 miles apart. Not the same place.
Also they had a hair dryer you could use while showering in another place.
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