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tooki:

--- Quote from: Monkeh on November 13, 2023, 06:48:00 pm ---
--- Quote from: tooki on November 13, 2023, 06:20:29 pm ---People should look at the Swiss plug system. It’s compact, safe, and has some really neat features (like three-phase outlets that accept single-phase plugs without needing any adapters or anything.)

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Or the very similar looking (lacking the three-phase bits, though) IEC 60906-1.

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Indeed. It looks like it uses slightly thicker pins to enable it to always be 16A. No three-phase version though.

I also wonder why they switched the position of line and neutral in 60906-1 compared to the Swiss (and NEMA) outlets.

thm_w:

--- Quote from: antenna on November 13, 2023, 03:48:53 pm ---How many grandmothers are buying these to hold their power strip plug-in into the outlet and then without any thought to the bad connection, run other stuff on the power strip like a TV, sat box, surround sound system and an occasional vacuum cleaner?

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Sounds like its intended for this two prong low power device: https://www.amazon.ca/HomePod-Management-Drilling-Excellent-Accessory/dp/B09VDL1FYV

If you use it for something else that is kind of your own problem.

edit: vacuums generally recommend to plug directly into the wall, not into a power strip. You can also use extension cords in series and burn down your house, should we not be allowed to sell low current extension cords too?

Siwastaja:

--- Quote from: thm_w on November 14, 2023, 11:50:19 pm ---You can also use extension cords in series and burn down your house, should we not be allowed to sell low current extension cords too?

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Yes, you definitely should stop selling non-fused low-current extension cords. They are already obviously illegal in pretty much everywhere else except North America and maybe a few developing third-world countries.

Making it fused costs like $0.50 more; another options is rating it for high enough current. It is absolutely ridiculous to assume normal laymen would be calculating and respecting power ratings of extension cords, but as that youtuber points out, it kinda sorta works by irrational fear against extension cords in general.

Someone:

--- Quote from: Siwastaja on November 15, 2023, 10:39:30 am ---
--- Quote from: thm_w on November 14, 2023, 11:50:19 pm ---You can also use extension cords in series and burn down your house, should we not be allowed to sell low current extension cords too?
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Yes, you definitely should stop selling non-fused low-current extension cords.
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More generally allowing an unfused cable between generic/consumer connectors that are expected/able to carry higher currents.
Other examples that pop up periodically:
mains -> IEC C13
USB -> USB

thm_w:

--- Quote from: Siwastaja on November 15, 2023, 10:39:30 am ---
--- Quote from: thm_w on November 14, 2023, 11:50:19 pm ---You can also use extension cords in series and burn down your house, should we not be allowed to sell low current extension cords too?

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Yes, you definitely should stop selling non-fused low-current extension cords. They are already obviously illegal in pretty much everywhere else except North America and maybe a few developing third-world countries.

Making it fused costs like $0.50 more; another options is rating it for high enough current. It is absolutely ridiculous to assume normal laymen would be calculating and respecting power ratings of extension cords, but as that youtuber points out, it kinda sorta works by irrational fear against extension cords in general.

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Right, so that sounds like a more important issue than selling a piece of double sided tape.

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