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Another deadly 737 Max control bug just found!

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SiliconWizard:

--- Quote from: schmitt trigger on March 10, 2020, 03:14:40 am ---Boeing is a major, MAJOR defense and aerospace contractor for the US government.

It is too big and too important to allow it to fail. It will be bailed out.

--- End quote ---

The famous "too big to fail"...

Thing is, the company could well be split into two completely separate entities, the defense/aerospace one still Boeing, and the commercial aircraft one... either bankrupt or sold to some other manufacturer. Maybe a chinese one. ::)

coppercone2:

--- Quote from: SiliconWizard on March 10, 2020, 02:07:30 pm ---
--- Quote from: schmitt trigger on March 10, 2020, 03:14:40 am ---Boeing is a major, MAJOR defense and aerospace contractor for the US government.

It is too big and too important to allow it to fail. It will be bailed out.

--- End quote ---

The famous "too big to fail"...

Thing is, the company could well be split into two completely separate entities, the defense/aerospace one still Boeing, and the commercial aircraft one... either bankrupt or sold to some other manufacturer. Maybe a chinese one. ::)

--- End quote ---

both divisions appear to have a quality problem based on reports of the airforce matching the problems in the civilian one.

so it can't just be split more to clean it up.. problem is not isolated. you would need to keep the machines and burn all the paperwork that is shared between both companies and rewrite it to see if the problem goes away (or fire everyone and get new people if that does not work).. the processes are bad

floobydust:
You could split up Boeing into 100 pieces, how does that really help with corruption?

Old monopoly corporations, once their culture is driven into a dive by a bad CEO, I have never seen them recover. You can't mandate safety or good design or even honesty.

The FAA has told Boeing the wiring bundles are "not compliant" and it did not agree with the planemaker's argument that the planes' wiring bundles meet safety standards. Let's see how Boeing worms its way out of this one.

Psi:

--- Quote from: SiliconWizard on February 27, 2020, 02:00:01 pm ---
--- Quote from: SilverSolder on February 27, 2020, 12:32:12 pm ---If the tickets are cheap enough on the Max...   they will fill the planes.   Passenger anxiety will drop off quickly and disappear entirely, and the fixed Max will eventually be a success...  provided there are no accidents!

--- End quote ---

Oh really.
Trust has been damaged way too much for this to happen IMO.

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Engineers trust in the planes has been damaged yes, company trust in them sure.
But i dunno about the general public.

I'd say over 60% of people buying plane tickets don't even look at their ticket to see what class of plane they will be flying on.
Even the ones who saw the news about the 737 Max issues, 90% of them have forgot what plane that was and wouldn't make the link even if they did read their ticket and saw 737 max on it.

Most people just buy a ticket and think the safety of the plane is someone else's job.
They assume if a plane is in service then it must be safe.

schmitt trigger:
I agree with Psi.
We in these forums are "geeks" and are interested in everything technical. Not everyone is the same.

My wife wouldn't distinguish an Antonov from a Cessna, and she does fly a lot. International and domestic.

Of course I'm exaggerating, but as long as she is comfortable in her window seat, and arrives to the destination on time, everything else are "details".

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