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SiliconWizard:

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--- Quote from: schmitt trigger on March 10, 2020, 03:14:40 am ---Boeing is a major, MAJOR defense and aerospace contractor for the US government.

It is too big and too important to allow it to fail. It will be bailed out.

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The famous "too big to fail"...

Thing is, the company could well be split into two completely separate entities, the defense/aerospace one still Boeing, and the commercial aircraft one... either bankrupt or sold to some other manufacturer. Maybe a chinese one. ::)

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both divisions appear to have a quality problem based on reports of the airforce matching the problems in the civilian one.

so it can't just be split more to clean it up..

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Oh if that ever happens, that won't be for cleaning it up, but just because there is no other choice left.
coppercone2:

--- Quote from: floobydust on March 11, 2020, 10:13:13 am ---You could split up Boeing into 100 pieces, how does that really help with corruption?

Old monopoly corporations, once their culture is driven into a dive by a bad CEO, I have never seen them recover. You can't mandate safety or good design or even honesty.

The FAA has told Boeing the wiring bundles are "not compliant" and it did not agree with the planemaker's argument that the planes' wiring bundles meet safety standards. Let's see how Boeing worms its way out of this one.

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boeing has multiple ceo's, one for each division, I assume. The BCA is being investigated/restructured, I don't know anything about the BDS. I would assume the BDS has the same problem as BCA if they both find shit in the fuel tanks.



    Boeing Commercial Airplanes (BCA)
    Boeing Defense, Space & Security (BDS)
        Phantom Works
    Boeing Global Services
    Boeing Capital
    Engineering, Test & Technology
    Boeing Shared Services Group
    Boeing NeXt - explores urban air mobility

I thought about drawing a managment flow chart but it starts to feel like a mafia bust (bafia)
floobydust:
Boeing will have to separate the wiring harnesses on the 737 Max to meet the 2009 safety standard. WTF boneheads ignored that regulation after the Swissair 111/TWA800 disasters and the FAA is not letting that slide. Stock plummeted down to $189 today, back to what it was three years ago or a loss of 50% from the good old days last year. I think that's $120B market cap lost so far?

What usually happens next is investors get fed up and bail, the company can't service its debt load, announces they are losing money, borrows even more money and then the cuts start happening.  Layoffs coming.

It seems like insanity because the new CEO will surely get $millions for a yearly bonus, worth say 100 engineer's wage. Imagine putting that to work developing aircraft.
But they wonder why they can't build new airplanes in less than 10 years, it seems like peak stupidity of the MBA management style.

edit: with my luck the stock is a strong buy, because a war will start over the crude oil market-share battle between Russia and Saudia Arabia.
BravoV:
Boo hoo ... gimme money pleaseee ....

-> Boeing in talks for short-term U.S. government assistance
EEVblog:

--- Quote from: SiliconWizard on February 27, 2020, 02:00:01 pm ---
--- Quote from: SilverSolder on February 27, 2020, 12:32:12 pm ---If the tickets are cheap enough on the Max...   they will fill the planes.   Passenger anxiety will drop off quickly and disappear entirely, and the fixed Max will eventually be a success...  provided there are no accidents!

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Oh really.
Trust has been damaged way too much for this to happen IMO.

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They'll just rename it.
I believe at least one airline has already done this on their decals.
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