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Apple announces Self Service Repair
strawberry:
how it is gonna work without special tool to unlock if iphone display replacement disables face id or main camera . this will increase security risks as stated by apple
ataradov:
Oh yes, security risks. Think of the children!
If you are so risk averse - don't get your phone into repair service, just buy a new one every time something is wrong. Apple will love that.
Also, they backed away from locking the screen even before this announcement because it clearly was not about security given that it was trivial to bypass with a chip swap. Yet the same chip swap made economical repair less viable. Go figure.
MrMobodies:
I read that in the newspaper before and I never thought they'll do it.
It see that the shareholders got involved on this one:
https://www.theverge.com/2021/11/17/22787336/apple-right-to-repair-self-service-diy-reason-microsoft
--- Quote ---The shareholder fight that forced Apple’s hand on repair rights
‘The timing is definitely no coincidence,’ says shareholder group
By Maddie Stone Nov 17, 2021, 1:27pm EST
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But Apple didn’t change its policy out of the goodness of its heart. The announcement follows months of growing pressure from repair activists and regulators — and its timing seems deliberate, considering a shareholder resolution environmental advocates filed with the company in September asking Apple to re-evaluate its stance on independent repair. Wednesday is a key deadline in the fight over the resolution, with advocates poised to bring the issue to the Securities and Exchange Commission to resolve.
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--- Quote from: IanB on November 18, 2021, 09:29:44 pm ---Also, it seems you will have to order the part in advance from Apple, so they can pre-program it with your device's serial number(s) before you install it. So it doesn't help independent repair shops who would like to keep a stock of common replacement parts on hand.
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I see so you can't just take a working one out of a scrap unit.
If I did pay for the genuine parts that sounds like it is going to be restrictive and burdensome for me to start dealing with serial numbers on every single part and hope on delivery that it is going to be pre-programmed with the right serial number before putting it back together.
Someone:
--- Quote from: MrMobodies on November 18, 2021, 11:56:10 pm ---
--- Quote from: IanB on November 18, 2021, 09:29:44 pm ---Also, it seems you will have to order the part in advance from Apple, so they can pre-program it with your device's serial number(s) before you install it. So it doesn't help independent repair shops who would like to keep a stock of common replacement parts on hand.
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I see so you can't just take a working one out of a scrap unit.
If I did pay for the genuine parts that sounds like it is going to be restrictive and burdensome for me to start dealing with serial numbers on every single part and hope on delivery that it is going to be pre-programmed with the right serial number before putting it back together.
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Sad, but its the way things have been going in cars/vehicles to deter theft/rebirthing. The idea is that if the parts cant be used and the product retains its serial/identity then any thefts can be easily tracked down (supposedly good for the consumer). Flip side, once the product is obsolete/unsupported, at the first breakdown its a worthless lump unless someone has liberated the locking/serial/identity tools (only benefits the manufacturers).
--- Quote from: ataradov on November 18, 2021, 06:21:37 pm ---From what I read, they never say what the "part" is. And I absolutely see them trying to sell you the whole logic board for $500 as a "part". It is a nice FU to the people that do the repair, and shuts down senile senators that have no clue what is going on.
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Worse than that, its looking like "self service" is just going to be an extension of their existing "authorised" repair process/chain. Parts often cost more than the street value of the product, and the defective part is returned to Apple for a credit/refund against the working part.
IanB:
--- Quote from: MrMobodies on November 18, 2021, 11:56:10 pm ---I see so you can't just take a working one out of a scrap unit.
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You cannot. People have done tests where they buy two brand new phones, and swap parts between them. After swapping the parts, the phones complain that the transplanted parts are not recognized as original, and the phone goes into "limp" mode and disables full functionality.
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