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Apple hardware subscription as a service
PKTKS:
--- Quote from: tooki on March 26, 2022, 01:31:40 pm ---
--- Quote from: PKTKS on March 26, 2022, 08:37:55 am ---A huge deep common grave to bury all this RENT-SEEKERS..
I will never buy hardware this way
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Nobody and nothing is forcing you to do so. Especially not an unsubstantiated rumor.
Mind you that hardware leasing is LONG established practice in the IT world. For the first few decades of computing, you couldn’t even buy most computers, they were only leased. (IBM mainframes famously were lease-only for many, many years.)
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I ca not see how to compare a cellphone to a mainframe... i can not see how to compare a cellphone even to a PC..
You can not even use a cellphone like a cheap bad computer..
So anyone ever use a mainframe for FB.. browsing or photo gallery..?
Do not see how such comparison sounds
Paul
Cerebus:
--- Quote from: PKTKS on March 27, 2022, 08:29:03 am ---
I ca not see how to compare a cellphone to a mainframe... i can not see how to compare a cellphone even to a PC..
You can not even use a cellphone like a cheap bad computer..
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Hello, 21st century calling. I've got a 3D scanning application on my phone that will create a point cloud model of a real world physical scene. In what world is that not a job for a computer, a computer with a bit more grunt than a "cheap bad computer". It will do in seconds what the whole desktop full of 3 engineering workstations (total value £30k-£50k) I sat behind a few years back would have taken a day to do. If you "can not see how to compare a cellphone even to a PC" perhaps you haven't quite got quite as much of a grasp of what this whole "computer" thing is about as you think you do (your regular postings of loads of bash script notwithstanding).
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So anyone ever use a mainframe for FB.. browsing or photo gallery..?
Do not see how such comparison sounds
Paul
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Twenty years ago no consumers leased their cars, it was purely a business phenomenon, nowadays it's a common practice for consumers - one of the forum members was talking just last week about handing his privately leased BMW i3 back to the leasing company. Consumers used to buy their own copies of Photoshop (well, the honest ones did), now they rent it from Adobe. We've already established that many consumers already lease their phones and have done for years. Many, many millions of people used to rent their televisions, or buy them on hire purchase, which is just another variation on a lease.
PKTKS:
--- Quote from: Cerebus on March 27, 2022, 10:17:15 am ---
Hello, 21st century calling. I've got a 3D scanning application on my phone that will create a point cloud model of a real world physical scene.
(..)
((!!!))
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Let me get this straight... So you are all saying....
That we can now today (incredible 21th cent).. pick a cell phone...
put it on the desktop... (just like a mainframe... or powerful PC) ...
... and use it on the same manner..
I am sorry but I haven't seen how this is possible ..
I do own some cellphones.. and i have no F** clue how to do this
They are ALL LOCKED DEVICES...
I can not use them as regular computers to run programs .. write programs and scripts..
just because they have been totally crippled
Have any of you just tried to root ANDROID?
or.. even simple .. running a BASH SHELL (which is included by default) on it and issuing a simple mount command on a terminal applet (written in some java dialect) ??
I did.. several times.. it is a tragic waste of time...
These so called computers... are *** gizmos to lock consumers into a business..
They are not computer ... if we are reaaallllly talking serious..
There is no chance in hell to compare a REAL MAINFRAME MULTIUSER device with a cellphone
Nevertheless ... I am pretty sure the folks on Apple think they are seeling something even better than a mainframe or PC and they should charge equal or more...
say what.. irrational world... greed... or they just count everybody as imbeciles..
and these genius rent-seekers will lock your life and business inside theirs..
like taking popcorn from children...
so.. if you all gonna pay for a device like that instead of computers... good luck...
Paul
PKTKS:
I will drop some more absurd greedy non-sense...
Today a pretty shitty cellphone ... locked and censored by the cloud...
is costing some thing around U$ 3100 dollars here...
With this amount .. a last generation very capable computer PC
can be bought with all network infrastruct and other things like external NAS..
U$ 3000 thousand dollars for a shitty cellphone is not rational
just to do browsing ... photo gallery and shitty emojis...
i am ok if someone want to do this,,, but i can get more value for this amount...
and who said rational plays a role...
i cal this shit.. the IFOOOOOL
Paul
BeBuLamar:
--- Quote from: rdl on March 26, 2022, 08:03:53 pm ---Leasing/renting is not a problem for me, though I'd probably never do it. It almost always costs significantly more in the long run.
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Eventually you will have to do it unless you don't want a cell phone. Apple will do it first but then other manufacturers will follow.
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