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Cerebus:

--- Quote from: PKTKS on March 27, 2022, 11:06:16 am ---They are ALL LOCKED DEVICES...
I can not use them as regular computers to run programs .. write programs and scripts..
just because they have been totally crippled

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Perhaps you cannot, but I can, and so can and do 10s of thousands of other people. That's how apps get made in the first place. Your doctrinaire "There is exactly one type of computer and it lives on a desktop and runs Linux" attitude is completely blinding you to the real world, where people write and develop programs for the pocketable, hand held computers we call smartphones every day.

I shouldn't really tell you this, because I fear for your mental condition after you discover that your whole world view has fallen apart, but you can even run Linux on an iPhone, should you really want to: https://www.macworld.co.uk/news/linux-iphone-7-3800398/ .
PKTKS:

--- Quote from: Cerebus on March 27, 2022, 12:08:38 pm ---
--- Quote from: PKTKS on March 27, 2022, 11:06:16 am ---They are ALL LOCKED DEVICES...
I can not use them as regular computers to run programs .. write programs and scripts..
just because they have been totally crippled

--- End quote ---

Perhaps you cannot, but I can, and so can and do 10s of thousands of other people. That's how apps get made in the first place...

--- End quote ---

You made me miss he Monky fellow....  ::)
Exploding spite rant inwards spherically emanating insults...

Do you know Apple charges to include apps and devels in their (closed) realm?
Do you also know the whole device is censored by their hidden bots ?

I am not locked into anything. I just DITCHED the crap and no longer need them.

If you are willing to pay that much on Apple gear.. fine..  your money.

TBH.. they do not worth 1/1000 that much

Paul
PlainName:

--- Quote from: Bicurico on March 26, 2022, 06:55:01 pm ---An iPhone subscription would look like this:

You purchase a 24 month subscription, which you pay with monthly rates.
It will include an insurance. If the phone breaks or you damage it, you get a new one, but you will have to pay a reserve.

The whole deal will cost as much as buying a new iPhone every two years.

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If this takes off (remember, it's just a rumour) I would expect it to be different to your suggestion. That way was how cars were sold on HP way back, but nowadays you never get to own the car. Instead, you pay a deposit and then monthly payments for 2 years or so. The payments are priced at covering the car over 5 years (or something similar) so you're clearly not going to have paid it off after 2 years. At that point you can pay the market value less what you've already paid (and then own the car) or hand it back and start again with another car.

That kind of scheme would make lots of sense for Apple devices. After 2 years they are ancient history (not technically, but socially - everyone wants the latest one), but they are mega-expensive to keep upgrading, so you flog off your old one to fund a new one. This scheme would essentially be doing that except you don't have to mess about trying to sell the old one, and you don't have to cough up the full price at the start. Cheap monthly payments, always a new (or relatively new) phone, what's not to like.

The downside is you never own a phone and if you stop paying it's gone. Cars leased this way have mileage limits and penalties for scratches and dents which affect the 'settle up' value at renewal/purchase. Phones would likely have similar.
PKTKS:

It is easier and more rational to tell this guild to fuck off

it matters to make a stand against such guilds

Paul
PKTKS:

--- Quote from: Cerebus on March 27, 2022, 12:08:38 pm ---
--- Quote from: PKTKS on March 27, 2022, 11:06:16 am ---They are ALL LOCKED DEVICES...
I can not use them as regular computers to run programs .. write programs and scripts..
just because they have been totally crippled

--- End quote ---

Perhaps you cannot, but I can, and so can and do 10s of thousands of other people.

(..)

--- End quote ---

FYI
those 10.000  folks  are going to have some ass kicking as welll

http://www.osnews.com/story/134724/apple-would-be-forced-to-allow-sideloading-and-third-party-app-stores-under-new-eu-law/

Paul
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