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tooki:
That’s exactly it. I don’t have the time to tinker with my essential gadgets: they have to just work.

SilverSolder:

--- Quote from: Halcyon on November 03, 2020, 05:42:38 am ---
--- Quote from: tom66 on November 02, 2020, 10:25:37 pm ---I have an iPhone because I got sick and tired of constant software bugs with Android devices.

My "new" (2020 generation) iPhone SE cost me fairly little second hand as flagship phones go, but the software is stable, Siri works well, battery life is excellent (2+ days with my usage profile.)  Maybe I can be tempted away from the walled Apple garden, but I don't want much from a phone.  I don't care that it's customisable,  I'm past that

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You haven't used a modern Android in quite a while have you? ;-)

In all seriousness, what you describe is basically the target market Apple is going for (that and those who like pretty packaging). If you just want a phone without the latest bells and whistles, that does a reasonable job of being a phone, then Apple devices are perfect. The moment you want to do something a little different or start customising things, that's when you start looking at alternatives.

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This is why I don't get Android...   Why are there so few suppliers that are "different" by having headphone jacks, replaceable batteries, SIM cards, and the rest of the good stuff that makes for a good long term experience with the device?

edy:
Do you actually "own" your Apple device? I haven't looked at the EULA carefully enough but is it possible perhaps for a phone manufacturer now and in the future to grant you license to use the hardware and platform but not really own anything (like downloadable books and music). I don't know what kind of legal framework there is for that or if it's happened already.

Note that I am not complaining or arguing for/against it, as long as consumers know what is happening. I have a number of Apple devices going back to 4S, 5C, 6... my wife has an 8... all but the 8 were given to me for FREE... I managed to successfully repair them using cheap eBay parts (or sometimes just opening and closing them and reseating connectors or letting moisture out) and they work great. I wouldn't have paid for these devices but considering the 4S is still functioning it would be a good deal.

My 4S actually is a case for what Apple is doing with batteries because it happened to me:

bd139:
It usually depends if you're renting the device or buying it which is set out in your contract terms. If you're buying it, at least in the UK, you own it and it is covered by the consumer rights act 2015 which gives statutory warranty for everything that a consumer buys for 6 years against defects. Yes 6 years.

When you walk into an Apple store with an issue here you get to choose if you want to use your AppleCare extended warranty (which covers stupid things you did for 2 years), limited warranty (which covers anything apple did for a year) or statutory warranty (which covers anything apple did for 6 years if they like it or not).

Consumer legislation should establish this in whatever region you are in. It might not. In that case, best to buy it on a credit card. They own it then.

As for batteries, here in the UK they are considered consumable which is fair. They do wear out. They charge £49 for the replacement. Sounds like a lot? Well until something goes wrong at which point you walk out of the Apple Store with a brand new handset. The dodgy guy down the market you literally have no idea what will happen. A friend of mine discovered that the guy in the market stall he got to repair his phone had actually swapped the entire front with a no brand part from China and was selling his front on ebay afterwards as a genuine part  :-//

tom66:
I mean, do I care whether I "own" it or not?  I hate to sound thick but it sits in front of me, of course I own it.  I licence the software, as part of the purchase, but that licence is indefinite (for the life of the device.)

My phone is not going to fly out of the home on some kind of Apple-drone.  And I highly doubt Apple will make the decision to brick devices remotely - the PR would be a disaster.

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