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| PlainName:
--- Quote ---This may "catch" a few idiots, but unfortunately, I'd think most criminals would know better than to put pictures or videos on surveilled phones --- End quote --- Idiots like, say, the police? https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/nov/19/police-chief-convicted-for-having-child-sex-abuse-video-on-phone-robyn-williams |
| magic:
Yep, a perfect example :D Meanwhile the author of the video is free. |
| bdunham7:
--- Quote from: dunkemhigh on August 24, 2022, 05:08:14 pm --- --- Quote ---This may "catch" a few idiots, but unfortunately, I'd think most criminals would know better than to put pictures or videos on surveilled phones --- End quote --- Idiots like, say, the police? https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/nov/19/police-chief-convicted-for-having-child-sex-abuse-video-on-phone-robyn-williams --- End quote --- That's the thing about witch hunts--they devolve into indiscriminate, ill-considered campaigns that eventually ensnare people who are totally innocent of anything that would be considered a crime by sane, reasonable people. Does anyone want to step up and defend this case as a reasonable exercise of state power? |
| magic:
Well, arguably, yes, the policewoman and half of her family have been nailed for incompetence and distributing materials between themselves that they weren't supposed to distribute, instead of initiating formal procedures. Now, whether you agree with the law or not, your taxes pay some people to actually enforce and follow it, so ::) |
| Halcyon:
--- Quote from: magic on August 23, 2022, 05:45:21 am --- --- Quote from: Halcyon on August 23, 2022, 04:37:49 am ---Propaganda? It's called mathematics. Look at something like SHA-256... the probability of a hash collision is so extraordinarily small. --- End quote --- Until it doesn't. They used to say the same about MD5. At any rate, you made it sound like this property is somehow guaranteed, which is utter :bullshit: --- End quote --- As I said, the collision potential in MD5 was known about not long after it was published. As I also said, it's still deemed "good enough for many applications". Never did I say that hashing was "guaranteed", in fact, I said the opposite, which you clearly chose to ignore. Please don't make ridiculous, falsified claims on my behalf. I think you still fail to see how what you're describing still isn't really a problem for the specific application we are talking about in this thread. You seem to be inventing problems where they don't exist. I think I'll defer to expert opinion. instead of yours, if you don't mind. --- Quote from: dunkemhigh on August 24, 2022, 05:08:14 pm --- --- Quote ---This may "catch" a few idiots, but unfortunately, I'd think most criminals would know better than to put pictures or videos on surveilled phones --- End quote --- Idiots like, say, the police? https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/nov/19/police-chief-convicted-for-having-child-sex-abuse-video-on-phone-robyn-williams --- End quote --- I think that's a bit of a generalisation. The actions of an individual does not mean that all in that group are idiots. I've personally investigated police internally for similar crimes, does that make me an idiot? Nope. I'm glad we got them though! The last guy got something like 16 years in jail. Good result. |
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