General > General Technical Chat

Apple privacy letter (Law enforcement through your phone)

<< < (20/24) > >>

Bicurico:
What I fear most is the symbiose of big tech gigants like Apple, Google, Amazon, etc. and goverments.

This is not lobbying it is plain corruption.

How is it possible that a small company in the EU is supposed to have a data privacy delegate, to assure that privacy laws are respected to a point where keeping a customer email can become critical, while Google is recording all transcribed phone conversations?

And the problem is exactly this: once you are flagged, even if you can prove that you did not othing wrong and the flagging resulted from poor AI or an error of the service provider, you have nobody to talk to. They don't care: you are one person amongst BILLION of users!

And yes, we may have the erroneous flagging of people, we may have the correct flagging of people, but we also may have the flagging on PURPOSE! This is done to eliminate any unwanted competition: in elections, as a competing startup, as an annoying voice.

What if Google or Apple flaggs Louis on purpose, as if it was a mistake? Lucky for him, he will at least be better off than the average guy, because he has a wider audience.

I really would wish that the suckers at the EU goverment would stop imposing the standard length of saussages and financing stupid goals as EU funded projects. Instead they should make an effort to limit the influence of US based tech gigants in the EU and sponsor the development of propper competition. It is sad to see how the EU has fallen behind on IT - at all levels.

Miyuki:

--- Quote from: Bicurico on August 24, 2022, 09:17:57 am ---What I fear most is the symbiose of big tech gigants like Apple, Google, Amazon, etc. and goverments.

This is not lobbying it is plain corruption.

How is it possible that a small company in the EU is supposed to have a data privacy delegate, to assure that privacy laws are respected to a point where keeping a customer email can become critical, while Google is recording all transcribed phone conversations?

And the problem is exactly this: once you are flagged, even if you can prove that you did not othing wrong and the flagging resulted from poor AI or an error of the service provider, you have nobody to talk to. They don't care: you are one person amongst BILLION of users!

And yes, we may have the erroneous flagging of people, we may have the correct flagging of people, but we also may have the flagging on PURPOSE! This is done to eliminate any unwanted competition: in elections, as a competing startup, as an annoying voice.

What if Google or Apple flaggs Louis on purpose, as if it was a mistake? Lucky for him, he will at least be better off than the average guy, because he has a wider audience.

I really would wish that the suckers at the EU goverment would stop imposing the standard length of saussages and financing stupid goals as EU funded projects. Instead they should make an effort to limit the influence of US based tech gigants in the EU and sponsor the development of propper competition. It is sad to see how the EU has fallen behind on IT - at all levels.

--- End quote ---
As an EU citizen, you are to some extent protected from this
Plenty of people use national email and other services
So they are somewhat isolated at least when using their windows based devices
The Bank system is also organized in a different way
So they will lose "only" the phone
And I know a lot of Android users who live happily without any cloud services or accounts

The other thing is the EU will never have tech giants, it just won't allow it
There are too many obstacles to entering and growing a company
And if some miracle will happen they will chop it afterward

They barely tolerate things like VW, Bosch, Siemens, and of course Oil companies
But they predate the EU, employ a big portion of the population, and of course are a big part of national economies.

radar_macgyver:
Meanwhile back in Google territory:

https://news.yahoo.com/dad-took-photos-naked-toddler-142928196.html

Even though the police cleared the guy, Google refuses to reinstate his accounts.

MT:

--- Quote from: SiliconWizard on August 09, 2021, 12:01:28 am ---Anyway, I do think those invasive surveillance measures are completely useless at defeating any kind of criminal activity anyway. This may "catch" a few idiots, but unfortunately, I'd think most criminals would know better than to put pictures or videos on surveilled phones and clouds anyway. So as always, they're just using mass surveillance and invading EVERYONE's privacy while criminals will probably continue happily doing their bad deeds while laughing at Apple and the likes.

--- End quote ---

You meant folks like Hunter Biden? and his laptop? not even encrypted FBI say....... well, FBI "not" a criminal governmental organization the fedgov say.... while a huge number of american citizens violently disagree.  :)

Bicurico:
If you want to share any form of ilicit data, you use regular mail and send a USB disk or an SD card.

This is quick and safe for the criminal, since the data can be easily encrypted beyond govermental decryption methods. Plus, it is easy to hide the data to start with. A regular letter with attached MicroSD that shows a Word document is all there is to be found. Run an "undelete" tool and gigabytes of files are revealed. Or just include a ZIP archive with a very long password.

And with this simple example I think I have shown how ridiculous it is to control the ENTIRE POPULATION and remove their privacy to find a few criminals who just use a more secure method.

Navigation

[0] Message Index

[#] Next page

[*] Previous page

There was an error while thanking
Thanking...
Go to full version
Powered by SMFPacks Advanced Attachments Uploader Mod