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Apple to have asked its suppliers in Taiwan to avoid using "Made in Taiwan!?
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bd139:
Apple are exiting China pretty quickly at the moment. It will take a decade though. Until then you have to suck dick to some degree or fold. Unfortunately they moved to India ...



None of this is anywhere near a real problem though. Most of our globalised technology supply chain organisation is a mess. That's the real problem.

I'd buy an iPhone tomorrow that was built in the US from US and European components. And I'd pay twice the amount of it. But it'd expect it to last for 10 years including software support rather than the current 6 years...
Halcyon:

--- Quote from: Monkeh on August 09, 2022, 12:08:46 pm ---
--- Quote from: tooki on August 09, 2022, 11:39:28 am ---Anyhow, the rule in question has been the law for years, but China said they’d start enforcing it now. So I’m not really sure what other option Apple has.
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Having recently heard of the saying "China's final warning", I would say they have the option to ignore them.

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China has been making vague empty threats for years. "Playing with fire" is another one that's popular. The CCP knows it's stuck between a rock and a hard place. Nevertheless, it will be interesting to see what happens from here. There has already been a dramatic shift during COVID. Now that the world is recovering, I think we'll see the manufacturing and supply chain landscape change significantly.
bd139:
I look forward to that happening. I suspect it won't.
wraper:

--- Quote from: Halcyon on August 09, 2022, 12:49:12 pm ---
--- Quote from: Monkeh on August 09, 2022, 12:08:46 pm ---
--- Quote from: tooki on August 09, 2022, 11:39:28 am ---Anyhow, the rule in question has been the law for years, but China said they’d start enforcing it now. So I’m not really sure what other option Apple has.
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Having recently heard of the saying "China's final warning", I would say they have the option to ignore them.

--- End quote ---

China has been making vague empty threats for years. "Playing with fire" is another one that's popular. The CCP knows it's stuck between a rock and a hard place. Nevertheless, it will be interesting to see what happens from here. There has already been a dramatic shift during COVID. Now that the world is recovering, I think we'll see the manufacturing and supply chain landscape change significantly.

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Their threats are not empty for anyone who does business within China. They get shut down or are severely punished pretty quickly if rub CCP the wrong way. I don't think they will shut down Apple as it brings export money, however they can deal a lot of pain for sure.
Halcyon:

--- Quote from: bd139 on August 09, 2022, 12:52:32 pm ---I look forward to that happening. I suspect it won't.

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I don't know... I think it has potential. After the sanctions that China placed on Australian coal and iron, we've seen nothing but a strong economy. The world is realising that relying less on China isn't necessarily bad or unachievable. Even average consumers here have been turning away from Chinese produce and electronics for years. Seldom do you see food made in China in Australian supermarkets anymore and the same goes with consumer goods and electronics. Household products made by Bosch/Siemens is one example, it's used as a marketing tool.
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