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Apple to have asked its suppliers in Taiwan to avoid using "Made in Taiwan!?
Ed.Kloonk:
--- Quote from: Halcyon on August 09, 2022, 01:07:27 pm ---
--- Quote from: bd139 on August 09, 2022, 12:52:32 pm ---I look forward to that happening. I suspect it won't.
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I don't know... I think it has potential. After the sanctions that China placed on Australian coal and iron, we've seen nothing but a strong economy. The world is realising that relying less on China isn't necessarily bad or unachievable. Even average consumers here have been turning away from Chinese produce and electronics for years. Seldom do you see food made in China in Australian supermarkets anymore and the same goes with consumer goods and electronics. Household products made by Bosch/Siemens is one example, it's used as a marketing tool.
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Japan did a thing in 2020 and told Japanese companies that instead of having their manufacturing being chased out of Japan with taxes and costs, the govt would now instead entice them to bring back local manufacturing in the form of tax breaks. They avoided naming names, of course.
I'm sure what happened last month to that PM had nothing to the change of policy that he brought in. But I understand if it was one of the reasons he was made to resign. And the offer wasn't as simple as just opening a new factory. Other countries have been slow to adopt this type of policy, if any, prolly hoping it would all blow over before spending too much money moving stuff around.
tooki:
--- Quote from: dunkemhigh on August 09, 2022, 09:38:51 pm ---
--- Quote from: tooki ---That article is an opinion piece
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Which turns out to be good enough when you want to push your point but not for anything else.
On the other hand the author is "Lynn Stout, the distinguished professor of corporate and business law at Cornell Law School", and I reckon her opinion is rather more pertinent than your repetition of an Internet myth.
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And the opposing piece is written by “Stephen Bainbridge, the William D. Warren distinguished professor of law at U.C.L.A. School of Law, is the author, most recently, of "Corporate Governance After the Financial Crisis.”
And it’s not “internet myth”, it’s also what I was taught in the accounting and management courses I took in university.
Plus the whole court precedent thing.
tooki:
--- Quote from: Kasper on August 10, 2022, 05:15:20 am ---Take number of USB cable models and divide by number of companies that use them. Then do the same with lightning cables.
Imagine if every company acted like apple and each one had their own cables.
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I agree on the last point. But most phone manufacturers are tiny players. The top 3 manufacturers make up over half of shipments. If every one of the top 3 made its own plug, they’d have similar volumes as Apple with Lightning. And Apple had good reason to create Lightning at the time: no connector on the market met their needs. USB-C wouldn’t come for a few years (and its design was influenced by Lightning). Had Apple switched to USB-C right away, people and media would have cried about yet another proprietary plug that was only around for a short while.
As for the first point: the percentage of manufacturers doesn’t matter. What matters is the percentage of phones, and Apple is a significant player. 1 in 6 smartphones shipped last quarter was an iPhone.
tooki:
--- Quote from: Kasper on August 10, 2022, 05:15:20 am ---
--- Quote from: tooki on August 09, 2022, 04:48:34 pm ---
--- Quote from: Kasper on August 09, 2022, 02:25:34 pm ---and they purposefully slow down older devices.
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This isn’t true, and it never was.
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Tell it to the judge.
https://www.npr.org/2020/11/18/936268845/apple-agrees-to-pay-113-million-to-settle-batterygate-case-over-iphone-slowdowns
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A settlement doesn’t actually mean the accusations are true or not. It’s not a decision. It simply means Apple decided it’d be cheaper or strategic to pay that rather than go to trial.
Nor do I have much faith in juries to actually understand the nuance of technical issues without bias— just like you aren’t.
Apple’s only real mistake in the entire batterygate thing was not being candid about the prevent-shutdowns-on-compromised-batteries feature (which, incidentally, will do the same on a later model whose iOS shipped with that feature already, not just on updating) activating and what it meant to the user.
But that feature aside, the general complaints of “ermagherd i installed a new OS and now my doodad is slower”… like, um, that’s how software generally works. It takes a TON of effort to optimize. (And it’s nice to see that Apple and Microsoft have both done it over the past few years.)
Marco:
To get back to the original topic. Apple has the same option everyone has to protest unjust law. Civil disobedience. Befehl ist Befehl is no excuse.
Now I don't blame Apple for just chasing monetary self interest instead, but trying to claim the moral high ground for the company while they are doing this shit is ridiculous. It's wrong, the fact that I abet companies who do wrong is wrong, it's all wrong. There is no moral high ground in this, just compromise for the sake of greed and comfort.
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