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Re: Are there any EEVblog server app you'd like to see installed?
« Reply #25 on: December 04, 2022, 09:08:53 pm »
Please, no, not Xenforo. Or anything else which insists I can only use one third of my display.
 

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Re: Are there any EEVblog server app you'd like to see installed?
« Reply #26 on: December 04, 2022, 09:12:16 pm »
What about a new software entirely?  https://www.vbulletin.com/ comes to mind...
I was an admin of a very large Mac forum back in the day. (It still exists, but has almost no traffic these days. But in its heyday of ~1999-2008ish, it was of similar membership as this forum is now.)

Anyhow, it originally ran on Ultimate Bulletin Board, a Perl-based system that… didn’t scale. So it was switched to vBulletin, which ultimately worked quite well. Overall, it looks and feels quite a bit like this forum, perhaps a bit more refined. But they also invested quite a bit in a custom skin and quite a bit of custom code to make things work as they should.

My hunch is that there would be very little advantage, if any, in migrating. And as Messtechniker said, migrations are risky (though how they managed to lose their source forum is puzzling… that sounds like a botched effort in every way). One huge problem with migrating is that internal links almost never get migrated properly, leading to a ton of link rot. (I don’t know why this is so difficult, but it apparently is…)
 

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Re: Are there any EEVblog server app you'd like to see installed?
« Reply #27 on: December 04, 2022, 09:27:53 pm »
Agreed. This is the main thing that has been missing from this forum: an easy way to add/manage pictures to a posting. If I want to attach more than 1 image, I use an image hosting service but for many of my early postings the images are long gone.
But you know that you can attach up to 10 files, up to 5MB total?
This has always worked, it's only inlining which is screwed up.
 

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Re: Are there any EEVblog server app you'd like to see installed?
« Reply #28 on: December 04, 2022, 09:32:20 pm »
Please, no, not Xenforo. Or anything else which insists I can only use one third of my display.

Themes dictate this, not the forum software.
Most allow users to choose between a fixed width and full width. You can also pick the colour of the theme.
Hell, you can even have multiple themes. Would not be too hard to emulate this old theme and make Xenforo look alike.


Agreed. This is the main thing that has been missing from this forum: an easy way to add/manage pictures to a posting. If I want to attach more than 1 image, I use an image hosting service but for many of my early postings the images are long gone.
But you know that you can attach up to 10 files, up to 5MB total?
This has always worked, it's only inlining which is screwed up.

It becomes a pain if you have multiple images as you can only select one at a time.
Modern editors will allow you to drop them in, move around and resize them. So much nicer than all in the footer.

This is not good for archiving though. All posts with Photobucket photos for example are useless now.
Really, all photos/images should be hosted on the forum unless absolutely necessary.
Less load time for users as well. 1 less DNS lookup.

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Re: Are there any EEVblog server app you'd like to see installed?
« Reply #29 on: December 04, 2022, 09:34:50 pm »
Please, no, not Xenforo. Or anything else which insists I can only use one third of my display.

Themes dictate this, not the forum software.
Most allow users to choose between a fixed width and full width. You can also pick the colour of the theme.
Hell, you can even have multiple themes. Would not be too hard to emulate this old theme and make Xenforo look alike.

I don't think I've ever seen a theme which behaves rationally for Xenforo. Maybe it's just the people using it..

Frankly, if all you're going to do is make it look identical, I don't see the point. Which is good, because this works fine.
 
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Re: Are there any EEVblog server app you'd like to see installed?
« Reply #30 on: December 04, 2022, 10:12:24 pm »
A dark mode which looks like the default theme but in dark would be great. I've tried the dark theme available but It changes the user experience significantly enough, and not in a good way(and some icons are missing), that using the default light theme feels better
 

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Re: Are there any EEVblog server app you'd like to see installed?
« Reply #31 on: December 04, 2022, 10:15:44 pm »
TEST



Well that's a FAIL.
 


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Re: Are there any EEVblog server app you'd like to see installed?
« Reply #33 on: December 04, 2022, 10:22:05 pm »
This board has what I experience as the worst PM functionality I ever used. You cannot manage conversations, no attachments are possible, no way to download PM's for archive, etc.

Not true. Attachments work fine, it's just the inline image thing we have a problem with, so it's a manual workaround.
I just tried installing the latest version but it still doesn't work. IIRC gnif might have hacked it premanently off because of the problems we had.

NOTE: I can install any SMF mod you want, so if you find any mod you think might be useful then just tell me

 

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Re: Are there any EEVblog server app you'd like to see installed?
« Reply #34 on: December 04, 2022, 10:31:57 pm »
TEST of the new editor!
Test of a copy'n'paste inline image:
OMG IT WORKED!
 

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Re: Are there any EEVblog server app you'd like to see installed?
« Reply #35 on: December 04, 2022, 10:33:35 pm »


 :-DD

Sorry, what is this? I can't make it out it's too small to see detail.
 

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Re: Are there any EEVblog server app you'd like to see installed?
« Reply #36 on: December 04, 2022, 10:35:56 pm »
Oh, the cut'n'paste image uses IMGUR instead of native. :(

 

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Re: Are there any EEVblog server app you'd like to see installed?
« Reply #37 on: December 04, 2022, 10:38:28 pm »
Ah much better. Now we can stay on SMF until it gets too old.

That GIF was showing Xenforo, literally just dragged a photo from this forum into the editor and it embed. 
This editor should now do the same. 

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Re: Are there any EEVblog server app you'd like to see installed?
« Reply #38 on: December 04, 2022, 10:39:42 pm »
Finally fix the **** attachment thing. Define this as your only mission in life. Dedicate all your resources to it. If you succeed, then let's think about what else we would like to have.
Agreed. This is the main thing that has been missing from this forum: an easy way to add/manage pictures to a posting. If I want to attach more than 1 image, I use an image hosting service but for many of my early postings the images are long gone.

I have installed a new WYSIWYG editor that allows you to copy and paste images inline without havign to upload. It uses IMGUR automatically.
At first I thought this was not a good idea, but it's real easy to use, and if you absolutely want the image stored on the EEVblog server then you go to the trouble to upload it.
 

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Re: Are there any EEVblog server app you'd like to see installed?
« Reply #39 on: December 04, 2022, 10:41:00 pm »
Ah much better. Now we can stay on SMF until it gets too old.

That GIF was showing Xenforo, literally just dragged a photo from this forum into the editor and it embed.
This editor should now do the same.

I tried the drag and it seems to support it but the image didn't show up for me, I have to cut'n'paste inline :-//
 

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Re: Are there any EEVblog server app you'd like to see installed?
« Reply #40 on: December 04, 2022, 10:41:30 pm »
Finally fix the **** attachment thing. Define this as your only mission in life. Dedicate all your resources to it. If you succeed, then let's think about what else we would like to have.
Agreed. This is the main thing that has been missing from this forum: an easy way to add/manage pictures to a posting. If I want to attach more than 1 image, I use an image hosting service but for many of my early postings the images are long gone.

I have installed a new WYSIWYG editor that allows you to copy and paste images inline without havign to upload. It uses IMGUR automatically.
At first I thought this was not a good idea, but it's real easy to use, and if you absolutely want the image stored on the EEVblog server then you go to the trouble to upload it.
Testing quotes.. [edit] They work but look ugly in the editor. It's fine. 


But also, if Imgur ever goes away, this will result in us losing all the photos uploaded to that service.
Not great for old threads one wants to go back to years if not decades later.


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Re: Are there any EEVblog server app you'd like to see installed?
« Reply #41 on: December 04, 2022, 10:44:01 pm »
This board has what I experience as the worst PM functionality I ever used. You cannot manage conversations, no attachments are possible, no way to download PM's for archive, etc.

Not true. Attachments work fine, it's just the inline image thing we have a problem with, so it's a manual workaround.
Dave, it's attachments in PM we are talking about, it's not possible, there's no option to add an attachment to a PM.
Keyboard error: Press F1 to continue.
 
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Re: Are there any EEVblog server app you'd like to see installed?
« Reply #42 on: December 04, 2022, 10:45:02 pm »
Testing quotes.. [edit] They work but look ugly in the editor. It's fine.

But also, if Imgur ever goes away, this will result in us losing all the photos uploaded to that service.
Not great for old threads one wants to go back to years if not decades later.
Heaps of people use Imgur on the forum anyway, I even do it myself.
The problem always remains that if we store inline images locally then the server will slowly become overloaded with image storage. It's why we have strict image size and number requirements for posts.
 

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Re: Are there any EEVblog server app you'd like to see installed?
« Reply #43 on: December 04, 2022, 10:45:42 pm »
This board has what I experience as the worst PM functionality I ever used. You cannot manage conversations, no attachments are possible, no way to download PM's for archive, etc.

Not true. Attachments work fine, it's just the inline image thing we have a problem with, so it's a manual workaround.
Dave, it's attachments in PM we are talking about, it's not possible, there's no option to add an attachment to a PM.

Find me a mod that does it and i'll install it.
 

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Re: Are there any EEVblog server app you'd like to see installed?
« Reply #44 on: December 04, 2022, 10:47:04 pm »
Any interest in this CMS?
https://www.smfpacks.com/cms/
 

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Re: Are there any EEVblog server app you'd like to see installed?
« Reply #45 on: December 04, 2022, 11:06:32 pm »
Testing quotes.. [edit] They work but look ugly in the editor. It's fine.

But also, if Imgur ever goes away, this will result in us losing all the photos uploaded to that service.
Not great for old threads one wants to go back to years if not decades later.
Heaps of people use Imgur on the forum anyway, I even do it myself.
The problem always remains that if we store inline images locally then the server will slowly become overloaded with image storage. It's why we have strict image size and number requirements for posts.
Host them on a CDN instead of the forum? Fewer hits on your web server and bandwidth. 

That is what I do. BackBlaze S3 plus Cloudflare CDN or an Nginx Cache server infront of the S3 bucket. 
Hosting around 50GB for one forum and costs are less than $0.50 a month for it all. 

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Re: Are there any EEVblog server app you'd like to see installed?
« Reply #47 on: December 04, 2022, 11:13:58 pm »
Is the rich text editor result if this thread? Can it be disabled? It absolutely utterly sucks.

Edit: I see that it is. Well, too bad. It would be good if there was an option  to disable it in the profile. There is an option "Show WYSIWYG editor on post page by default.", but it no longer does anything.
« Last Edit: December 04, 2022, 11:16:22 pm by ataradov »
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Re: Are there any EEVblog server app you'd like to see installed?
« Reply #48 on: December 05, 2022, 12:24:25 am »
Is the rich text editor result if this thread? Can it be disabled? It absolutely utterly sucks.
+1

Oh Lee crap! That's horrible.
 

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Re: Are there any EEVblog server app you'd like to see installed?
« Reply #49 on: December 05, 2022, 12:29:31 am »
+2 >:(
Fortunately you can still click the toggle view toolbar button (furthest right) to turn off WYSIWYG and see plain text + BBCODE.  However its a PITA having to do that *EVERY* *%EXPLETIVE%* *TIME* :horse:|O
 


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