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Alex Eisenhut:
Bowdlerization is nothing new.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Bowdler

Somehow, we survived as a species.
Ed.Kloonk:

--- Quote from: I wanted a rude username on December 28, 2020, 04:04:28 am ---This doesn't change the fact that increased centralisation and control of content on the Internet makes thought control easier, but seems like a poor example.

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If there is indeed a agenda based around content centralisation, I put it to you that due to said centralisation, more ppl than ever, per capita, are acutely aware of all the fuckery going on around them.

I wanted a rude username:
Not an agenda so much as companies want to monetise information, and they can't monetise what they don't have. Facebook could have been designed like the later Diaspora, but its founding doesn't seem to have been motivated by privacy ... quite the opposite.

You are right that centralisation makes it easier to control the flow of lies, and harmful memes such as Da'ish. However, when the majority (or even a strident minority) holds a certain point of view to be a lie ... even though it is true ... this centralised control becomes censorship.

We are in a weird moment of both great freedom of information, and increasingly effective means to control it. That control is tightening much faster on the Facebooks and YouTubes than on the EEVblogs and 4chans.
james_s:

--- Quote from: Halcyon on December 28, 2020, 05:08:06 am ---As a "faggot" I actually love Dire Straits. Grew up with it. (Maybe there was some suppressed homosexuality there?) ;-)

Seriously though, in that song, I don't think "faggot" referred to gay people. It would be like someone in Australia calling someone a "dickhead". It can be taken positively as well as negatively. My best friend is fondly referred to as "DH" in correspondence.

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I'm pretty sure it was referring to homosexuals, I mean look at the rest of those lines:
"See the little faggot with the earring and the makeup
Yeah buddy that's his own hair"

The speaker is referring to glam metal performers, the whole hairspray, makeup and feminine style on men thing that was popular for a while in the 70s and 80s. I read somewhere that the song came from a conversation Knoppfler overheard in an appliance store, a couple of workers in the back referring to a music video that was playing on a TV. I don't think it's hard to imagine a couple of underpaid redneck boobs saying derogatory things about a wealthy rock star, it certainly wouldn't be the first time someone made fun of a guy for feminine traits/style/behavior. Especially back in the 70s-80s when homosexuality was far less accepted in society than it is today.

Ultimately it's just a song, and doesn't really seem like that big of a deal. Too many people have become far too sensitive in recent years and take things far too personally.
bsfeechannel:

--- Quote from: Halcyon on December 28, 2020, 05:08:06 am ---Seriously though, in that song, I don't think "faggot" referred to gay people.
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For those who speak Spanish, a fagot is both someone who plays a bassoon and the instrument itself.


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