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Offline TheBayTopic starter

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Oh my,

I will admit I am a bit of an audio buff, I have expensive gear but I do not buy in to nonsense, I do not own expensive interconnects or speaker, cable came from Farnell!
I believe in science/electronics not this audiophile nonsense.

This takes the biscuit, how can they get away with selling this?

Check out the Pseudo science in the article!

This thing retails over $1000 and they recommend more than one  |O

Maybe I'm missing a trick, I should buy some cheap cables, have them blessed by my local priest, soak them in holy water, hang them in a thunderstorm, burn them in on a bench PSU and finally get virgin nuns to packaged them when the sun is shining on the moon at just the right angle. Maybe £1000 a cable will suffice?

I might even be wrong with this device, maybe we all need them in our labs  :-DD

http://www.lessloss.com/blackbody-p-200.html

Reviews here:

http://stereotimes.com/acc032212.shtml

http://www.6moons.com/audioreviews/lessloss4/blackbody.html


 

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Yes, outstanding BS. Had a good lough. And don't buy too much of them because it might break the mobile phone service in your area.  >:D
 

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I was sceptical until I saw the very extensive set-up procedure:




Clearly using the Goldilocks differential method!
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Yes, outstanding BS. Had a good lough. And don't buy too much of them because it might break the mobile phone service in your area.  >:D

Would I sleep better with one strapped on each ear?
 

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Yes, outstanding BS. Had a good lough. And don't buy too much of them because it might break the mobile phone service in your area.  >:D

Would I sleep better with one strapped on each ear?

Maybe, but they will probably stop all your synapses from firing! :-DD |O
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Yes, outstanding BS. Had a good lough. And don't buy too much of them because it might break the mobile phone service in your area.  >:D

Would I sleep better with one strapped on each ear?

Maybe, but they will probably stop all your synapses from firing! :-DD |O

Might not be such a bad thing  :-DD :-DD
 

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Yes, outstanding BS. Had a good lough. And don't buy too much of them because it might break the mobile phone service in your area.  >:D

Would I sleep better with one strapped on each ear?

even better works whacking yourself int he head with a pair of these until you are unconscious.
when you wake up  : repeat
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Black Body..... Might make a good calibration standard for FLIR thermal cameras!!
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they keep talking about black body radiation. that must be hawking radiation then ? quick someone invent a hawking radiation absorber you can but next to these black bodies..

you don't want hawking radiation in your house...
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I find it kinda hilarious how these people harp on about how placement and putting a "black body" near their equipment makes all the difference, and then clutter up their listening room with random crap.

That can of coke will resonate, I think cherry is the worst flavour for it.
The rug is offset to the left too much, that will be causing havoc with stereo imaging  :-DD
 

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I find it kinda hilarious how these people harp on about how placement and putting a "black body" near their equipment makes all the difference, and then clutter up their listening room with random crap.

That room is so well suited for professional listening, It allows you to hear easily the difference between standard IEC power cords and directional oxygen-free cryogenic treated pure copper power wires. Just kidding. It screams "audiophoolery".
 

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Could also scream unhappy marriage.
Notice that the speakers block two doors, the room is very unkempt, rather like a slum-out and get drunk room.
Normally they have a pool table or cinema/games system, but the propulsion system from a yellow submarine has the bases covered.

So yes, it's Arthur Crabtree's greenhouse!

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I must get some for when I go EMC testing. I'm sure I could smuggle one into the test chamber  :-DD
 

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The essense I get from this is that some people will believe anything you tell them as long as it sounds complex. It would be interesting to make one of them realize this.
 

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... but the propulsion system from a yellow submarine has the bases covered.

Thanks, I was trying to figure out what that reminded me of!  :-DD
 

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The seem quite willing to send them out for reviews, maybe Dave should put this theory to bed  :-DD
 

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I find it kinda hilarious how these people harp on about how placement and putting a "black body" near their equipment makes all the difference, and then clutter up their listening room with random crap.

Amazing set up though. Some good equipment there on the left and those amps are amazing.
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"We now have a good explanation for why we have felt the need to introduce talismans, or tweaks of mahogany, tourmaline, smoky quartz, and other such items placed in strategic locations throughout our systems."

Oh wow, the bullshit has gone meta.

If only there were some kind of enclosure, or absorber, that could suck in all audiophoolery in the vicinity, leaving only clean, rational and informed technical discussion.

I'd suggest a toilet, but that'd be toilet humor.

Edit: Wait, wait! What happens if you put their Blackbody absorber in a microwave oven? For science!
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"We now have a good explanation for why we have felt the need to introduce talismans, or tweaks of mahogany, tourmaline, smoky quartz, and other such items placed in strategic locations throughout our systems."

Oh wow, the bullshit has gone meta.

If only there were some kind of enclosure, or absorber, that could suck in all audiophoolery in the vicinity, leaving only clean, rational and informed technical discussion.

I'd suggest a toilet, but that'd be toilet humor.

Edit: Wait, wait! What happens if you put their Blackbody absorber in a microwave oven? For science!
This is a very good idea. Everyone should do this because the microwaves will help align the atoms' electric fields for smoother flow.
 

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I find it kinda hilarious how these people harp on about how placement and putting a "black body" near their equipment makes all the difference, and then clutter up their listening room with random crap.

Amazing set up though. Some good equipment there on the left and those amps are amazing.
in a room with slanted surfaces left and right , no sound dampening upholstery anywhere. looks like a drywall on wood room as well. and you are going to do quality tests in that ? at least go listen to the system in an anechoic room.  bunch of dolts ...  there is more echo in this room than in the french alps ..

and those halogen spots on tracks on the ceiling ? in those white boxes is the crappiest , most powerline polluting, switching mode 12 volt supply the chinese have ever invented.  better make sure you use electron-free cable to feed that one .... those things chirp like crickets all by themselves.
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Edit: Wait, wait! What happens if you put their Blackbody absorber in a microwave oven? For science!
if you microwave the blackbody you need to tune your ears as well. i suggest microwaving your entire head, just to make sure...  :palm:
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in a room with slanted surfaces left and right , no sound dampening upholstery anywhere. looks like a drywall on wood room as well. and you are going to do quality tests in that ?

Not sure if you're looking at the same picture, but there's acoustic panels on the wall.
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http://www.lessloss.com/firewall-p-196.html

Features:

No capacitors, no diodes, no resistors, no inductors, no fuses...

What the hell is inside  it then?
 

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oh Ive seen this "skin filter" stuff before, they put a resistive coating on the surface of the wire, and claim that because of skin effect it attenuates high frequency, but passes power fine. If you can bond a conductive carbon coating or plate copper with titanium, would it attenuate RF and HF more than plain copper wire? probably, but a choke and caps probably do a lot better of a job  :-DD 

I should make a filter box/power strip that requires a separate earth stake, with a triple shielded mil-spec circular connector to IEC power cables for plugging in equipment, sell it for $700 per cable and $3k for the power strip. 
Maybe get a ferrite company on alibaba to make some 4" x 4" x 12"  ferrite beads to feed power wires though.
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http://www.lessloss.com/firewall-p-196.html

Features:

No capacitors, no diodes, no resistors, no inductors, no fuses...

What the hell is inside  it then?
This...


But, eh. what?
Whoa! How the hell did Dave know that Bob is my uncle? Amazing!
 

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A bundle of steel rods by the look of it, (could actually be bicycle spokes) wrapped in a guess plastic, but could be something conductive, the question then is, if the wrapping was conductive, could they be seen as a very ineffective loop antenna? in other words actually causing a measurable effect to ambient EM field strength?

now i am no audio fool, but i like to approach these things to find out what science they are relying on to rake in cash.

And if this was the case, then they have built a device that functions on resistance, capacitance and inductance,
hmm, pump a million amp through it and you have a fuse, and wait for oxide deposits on the metals and you could have yourself a diode :D
 


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