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Re: Australia data encryption law
« Reply #50 on: January 27, 2019, 02:22:06 am »
I'm proper confused by this thread! Reads like something the KKK would put together but against Chinese people. Kinda like: Blueskull has got a foreign-looking flag set as his country, let's have him! :scared: :scared:

Right. I forget you don't have morals or feelings of your own, only a need for success.

If the people are happy, why not? Chinese people are just by nature competitive.
A competitive environment with good reward system is what we want.

Make your own life better by your hard work. No matter for whom.
I don't care if I work for USA making nukes against China, or I work for China recreating Soviet Union.
If I get my own life better and I take care of my own business, I'm all good.


Any other Chinese people follow this type of sellout SELFISH BS that borders on fifth column/treason activity??  :--


Er, yeah, I'm 100% British and I agree with the guy, don't know the guy, but he's speaking sense. Dafuq is your problem?

@ Blueskull kindly delete your last posts and !@#$ OFF this thread!  :rant:

Signed the other 99% of us.

How about you go and play with traffic you bellend? You been reading up on those radical papers again?

When did the Strayans become so pro Trump?

I really can't believe how fast this escalated!

What radical papers? About as radical as I get is watching mainstream news on TV and generally our ABC or SBS as they have the least bias.

As this is your first post in this thread is to name call me then you can go place your own ballend where it fits and I am sure it would only need a very tiny space! I am actually far more offended by you calling me Pro Trump :wtf: is that going to be the new insult for 2019?

If you bothered to read what has been said by BlueSkull in its entirety here and the pro chinese ideals and propaganda he keeps spouting you might have half a clue as to why I am pissed off. We are NOT china and we DONT want to become like China and accept the governments will OR ELSE!

This piece of bullshit flawed legislation puts us closer to a police state with no oversight and having anyone try and say it's ok regardless of flag is seriously out of order as it 'currently' doesn't effect them but it likely will is we allow it to stand in it's current form. India is heading that way China is a lost cause and if it sticks here the UK, USA and anyone else we have ties with is getting it too. Without oversight provisions (minimum) and major rewording it is bordering on unlawful if it were pushed to the high court.

To say it is ok because in my country because it 'protects' everyone by allowing spying on all is absolute bullshit and has NO place in a western democracy it is only allowed in totalitarian regimes because if you speak up about it you 'disappear'.

So much of the content of this thread is OFF TOPIC.
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Re: Australia data encryption law
« Reply #51 on: January 27, 2019, 02:43:52 am »
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loads of bollocks

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You're beyond help mate.
 

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Re: Australia data encryption law
« Reply #52 on: January 27, 2019, 02:46:08 am »
Which if you even tried to read or understand what this legislation DOESN'T have is just that it has NO limits or oversight other than by the government. And our Government elected by the people and damm well should govern for the people which is clearly isn't in this case.

https://www.cpomagazine.com/cyber-security/controversial-encryption-laws-in-australia-could-set-dangerous-worldwide-precedent/
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Re: Australia data encryption law
« Reply #53 on: January 27, 2019, 02:48:09 am »
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loads of bollocks

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You're beyond help mate.

Calling me mate after calling me a ballend would get you a punch in the nose in this country  :box: Feel free to continue the insults I am more than up to trolls with nothing constructive to add to the discussion.
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Re: Australia data encryption law
« Reply #54 on: January 27, 2019, 02:51:00 am »
I'd really like for this topic to get back on track - and stay civil.  Unfortunately, it is inescapably tied to politics, which does not bode well.
 

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Re: Australia data encryption law
« Reply #55 on: January 27, 2019, 03:42:04 am »
They can just save the effort and learn what China did on the same case.
We just don't allow end-to-end encryption. You can do that privately, but no public commercial communication platforms (apps, websites) are allowed to offer such service.
Saves the government's time and taxpayers' money.
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That's what comes to you if you defy the government. Be wise.

Please let me know how this statement doesn't conflict with what I think you are meaning here in this statement?

It.only takes one cybercop to step out to blow the entire conspiracy if there is one.

And, what do you think IA does?

Also, being a cop, one is also a people of the country. As long as there is a single non corrupted cop in the team, there will be supervision.

One one hand you say it is done for the people and it should be accepted without question at peril to the citizens and then you are now saying for 'one' person to stand up for the majority?

and then this?

What I promote is that governments should have power over the people, but in the other way around, the people should have oversight over the government.

I am not sure what you really think or if you in fact know? You seem to say one should stand up but not stand up in case you get into trouble? Then the last quote of yours you say the people should have a say in what the government does and acts most certainly not how China works so what do you actually believe in Freedom or Totalitarianism or just simply shut up and take what the State says is correct?

Government cloak and dagger is a fact of life in all countries and in this current time those of us in Western Democracies for their failings can stand up and say NO without being put in jail and generally whistle blowers get heard at a minimum. This legislation turning us toward the Chinese style on internet surveillance is out of order and allows our Federal Government to do what it likes 'legally' (questionable) to surveil anyone it wants to in the electronic sense without any oversight.

This is 'Democracy in Crisis' and it is a problem if it is allowed to stand.
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Re: Australia data encryption law
« Reply #56 on: January 27, 2019, 04:50:58 am »
According to the Globalization Trilemma

"democracy, national sovereignty and global economic integration are mutually incompatible: we can combine any two of the three, but never have all three simultaneously and in full."

This is not disputed, everybody seems to agree its true. Even the Davos folk write about it on their web site.

So it seems we got hyperglobalization and lost the democracy, somewhere along the road, was it taken? I don't remember ever voting for this hyperglobalization thing. Did any of you?

So we ALL have this problem, lack of legitimacy of the things that are being done. Seems to me it is, anyway.
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Re: Australia data encryption law
« Reply #57 on: January 27, 2019, 05:45:50 am »
So it seems we got hyperglobalization and lost the democracy, somewhere along the road, was it taken? I don't remember ever voting for this hyperglobalization thing. Did any of you?
Maybe people didn't vote for globalisation but people certainly have been voting for the politicians promoting it, it wasn't called hyperglobalisation and it wasn't mentioned much so maybe they just didn't understand what was going on. But it's not like it's been a big secret either. A lot of political issues never gets mentioned in the media but they still get debated in the parliaments and different political parties have different opinions about them. People have been voting for big business interests for a long time, and globalisation has been a long time goal for multinational corporations since it's more profitable for them. Like free trade agreement and the Investor-state dispute settlement mechanisms, there are politicians that oppose it but it's generally not the ones the majority votes for.
 


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