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Australian NBN out of DOCSIS NTDs: restock guessing game

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wraper:

--- Quote from: Halcyon on February 20, 2021, 04:17:19 am ---Internet is also priced fairly competitively. I pay just over $100/month for a 100/40 Mbit connection (the fastest I can get on my technology) with unlimited data and a static public IPv4 address.

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I pay $25/mo for 500 Mbit (530/530 in practice) and have it for about 9 years, though at beginning price was somewhat higher for 500 Mbit tier. Also I could pay less if switched provider. In some countries people get the same speed for less than half of that. Starlink soon will offer better internet in rural areas than your fixed connection.

--- Quote ---Our cellular wireless is first class and speed/coverage is beyond anything you find in other developed countries.
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I've seen that. And it makes even more obvious how NBN is fucked up. It's a world famous failure FFS.

bdunham7:

--- Quote from: wraper on February 20, 2021, 01:30:09 am ---Actually usually they do, or if they don't, they at least bring fiber-optic to the building and then use Ethernet to apartments/offices, not this hodgepodge of coax, DSL or whatever. If you google FTTN, all results are about NBN.

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Sadly, even here in SoCal the one company with fiber to the home stopped building out the network and sold it to a company that isn't expanding it.  All of the other providers in my area run fiber to a neighborhood 'node' and then it is MOCA (coax) to the house along with the TV channels (including the crap SDV system).  Fortunately I already have it so it is fiber to a terminal on the side of the house and Gigabit LAN from there.

Much of rural US is many times worse off than even developing countries.  Starlink will be a huge improvement for those folks and for many there is no serious competition.  Hughesnet anyone?  How about some data caps?

coppice:

--- Quote from: Halcyon on February 20, 2021, 04:17:19 am ---Internet is also priced fairly competitively. I pay just over $100/month for a 100/40 Mbit connection (the fastest I can get on my technology) with unlimited data and a static public IPv4 address.

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I assume you mean Australian dollars, which I think is about US$80. For 100Mbps that's a price you can only get in 2021 when there is no competition at all.

coppice:

--- Quote from: wraper on February 20, 2021, 01:30:09 am ---
--- Quote from: coppice on February 20, 2021, 01:03:54 am ---most fresh installations around the world still don't bring the fibre right into the customer premises.

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Actually usually they do, or if they don't, they at least bring fiber-optic to the building and then use Ethernet to apartments/offices, not this hodgepodge of coax, DSL or whatever. If you google FTTN, all results are about NBN.

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Try Googling FTTC and you'll get a lot more results, but its basically the same thing as FTTN. You aren't picking how much of this stuff is still being installed because there are so many different terms used for it. The UK is rather third world, but its not that unusual in its internet practices. Only a tiny number of "experimental" installs of fibre to the home lines exist here. Most new installs are FTTC, with 80Mbps or 300Mbps copper to the home from the fibre cabinet.

Monkeh:

--- Quote from: coppice on February 20, 2021, 01:54:04 pm ---Only a tiny number of "experimental" installs of fibre to the home lines exist here.

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https://labs.thinkbroadband.com/local/broadband-map#5/51.836/-5.713/techall/geafttp/

It's just slow rolling out. I think you'll find the G.9701 rollout is rather less significant.

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