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Australian NBN out of DOCSIS NTDs: restock guessing game
tom66:
--- Quote from: nfmax on February 20, 2021, 07:51:29 pm ---I get the impression Openreach's plans have been changing very rapidly recently - working from home has really highlighted the importance of good internet connection, making the take-up figures much higher
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The local estate is being upgraded to FTTP over the next few years. 15Mbit/s upload rate makes WFH painful at times!
coppice:
--- Quote from: tom66 on February 21, 2021, 12:21:09 pm ---
--- Quote from: nfmax on February 20, 2021, 07:51:29 pm ---I get the impression Openreach's plans have been changing very rapidly recently - working from home has really highlighted the importance of good internet connection, making the take-up figures much higher
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The local estate is being upgraded to FTTP over the next few years. 15Mbit/s upload rate makes WFH painful at times!
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A friend recently looked at a house on a new estate in Leeds. They rejected it, because its brand new wiring is only carrying internet at 1-3Mbps. I guess its not a big enough estate to get its own infrastructure, and has to piggy back on the surrounding area. However, 1-3Mbps for a new build in a city in 2021 is just sad. New builds in green field locations are still getting nothing more than a copper pair, and a distance great enough to limit that pair to 1-3Mbps, but its just messed up for this to be happening in a city location.
madires:
In those cases the telco has two options. The first is to feed new homes via unused DSL ports in an already installed DSLAM/MSAN/BNG, while the longer cable runs limit the throughput. The other option is to install a new local box with DSLAM/MSAN/BNG plus laying backhaul fiber which is more expensive, but allows maximum throughput. It's not hard to guess which option most telcos prefer.
firehopper:
I pay $150 a month for 40/4 mbit plus tv.
--- Quote from: wraper on February 20, 2021, 04:49:23 am ---
--- Quote from: Halcyon on February 20, 2021, 04:17:19 am ---Internet is also priced fairly competitively. I pay just over $100/month for a 100/40 Mbit connection (the fastest I can get on my technology) with unlimited data and a static public IPv4 address.
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I pay $25/mo for 500 Mbit (530/530 in practice) and have it for about 9 years, though at beginning price was somewhat higher for 500 Mbit tier. Also I could pay less if switched provider. In some countries people get the same speed for less than half of that. Starlink soon will offer better internet in rural areas than your fixed connection.
--- Quote ---Our cellular wireless is first class and speed/coverage is beyond anything you find in other developed countries.
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I've seen that. And it makes even more obvious how NBN is fucked up. It's a world famous failure FFS.
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Halcyon:
--- Quote from: wraper on February 20, 2021, 04:49:23 am ---
--- Quote from: Halcyon on February 20, 2021, 04:17:19 am ---Internet is also priced fairly competitively. I pay just over $100/month for a 100/40 Mbit connection (the fastest I can get on my technology) with unlimited data and a static public IPv4 address.
--- End quote ---
I pay $25/mo for 500 Mbit (530/530 in practice) and have it for about 9 years, though at beginning price was somewhat higher for 500 Mbit tier. Also I could pay less if switched provider. In some countries people get the same speed for less than half of that. Starlink soon will offer better internet in rural areas than your fixed connection.
--- Quote ---Our cellular wireless is first class and speed/coverage is beyond anything you find in other developed countries.
--- End quote ---
I've seen that. And it makes even more obvious how NBN is fucked up. It's a world famous failure FFS.
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5G and Starlink are a huge threat to the NBN. I think their fibre rollout is too little too late for many people.
The only thing that keeps me on the NBN at the moment is the lack of CG-NAT and a static IP address, which I need.
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