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Average car contains 100 million lines of code, The State of Autosoftware

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jonpaul:
How many lines in Apolo 1960s computers,8192?

How many lines in 1980s Star wars SDI antimissile défense control system?

How many lines  in your "smart" internet connected TV?

Jon


MT:

SiliconWizard:

--- Quote from: Kjelt on January 26, 2023, 08:06:14 am ---
--- Quote from: SiliconWizard on January 25, 2023, 09:58:37 pm ---The problem is feature creep + software developers deciding how products should be developed.
To paraphase a famous quote, software is much too serious a matter to be left to software developers.
 :popcorn:

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Since I am EE by education and SWE for 25+ years for occupation I can say this from my experiences:

GUI's design : yes you need people who have an deep understanding of human thinking esp those with lower iq to design a good and clear GUI.
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Yes, and this was actually a thing back in the 80s/90s, it seems to have gone downhill ever since. Now it's all good if it is shiny and flat. (You can replace "shiny" with "dark mode" which is the new trendy shit, but same.)


--- Quote from: Kjelt on January 26, 2023, 08:06:14 am ---Software coding: no you need SW architects for a good clean architecture, skilled SWE en designers to use the correct statemachines, designpatterns etc.
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Oh yes, but it isn't really compatible with the agile methods in general, which have plagued the industry.
This is less obvious in heavily regulated fields (such as automotive, medical), but still has some impact at many places.


--- Quote from: Kjelt on January 26, 2023, 08:06:14 am ---Hardware engineers programming software, few are really good but unfortunately most suffer from the Dunning-krugereffect in this regard and this forum is full of it  >:D

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Well, software programming has gone downhil too IMHO in general, but you are right in pointing out that "embedded development" is much too often done by EEs with only very basic software development skills.

PlainName:

--- Quote --- "dark mode" which is the new trendy shit
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Amazing how many products list dark mode as the top or second to top feature. For example: https://vovsoft.com/software/text-edit-plus/

MT:
Just let ChatGPT3 write the car code and all will be fine and dandy! Surely it can figure out all the "safety situation issues"!  :horse:

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