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tom66:

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When I scrapped my 14 year old Peugeot 206 diesel it was still using the original battery from the factory. 

Kjelt:
I think most countries have locations where you can join a day course in car skidding / slipping practices ?
Indeed absolutely recommended to get an idea what happens with a car when the conditions are not optimal.

Esp. driving on a slippery driveway with 30 - 50 - 80 km/hour and then see what happens when you need an emergency stop.
So glad there were no trees on the side during that course  ;)

Also never had the wish to drive over 130km/hour on the german highway anymore when other traffic is present.

Berni:
I think the place also offers an independent class that anyone can take.

Years before this was made an requirement, i got to go there trough through the insurance company. I was classified as a young driver back then and could get a nice insurance discount on my car if i take the class. It was a very fun afternoon for sure, would recommend. The skills from there have certainly come in useful. Like for example going around a curve on the highway at 100+ km/h and it suddenly turns into a icy skid.

Don't think i heard of any other country having this as a requirement, but they really should. If anyone is from a country where they do, do tell us about it.

tom66:
We have 'Pass Plus' in the UK which is endorsed by insurance companies to help provide a discount to younger drivers, but in reality it usually only offers around a 5% discount.  On a £1,000 insurance premium it rarely pays for the cost of the course.

The approach for a discount here is to get a telematics unit which monitors your driving; acceleration, braking, time of day.  But I've never liked the idea. 

tom66:
ABS definitely improves safety.  The biggest benefit though is that it gives you the ability to steer away from a possibly inevitable collision.  You can't do that if the wheels lock.   And modern vehicles can detect the quality of the road surface and alter how the ABS works, or offer a user-selectable surface setting (more common in 4WD vehicles.) 

ESP is another good feature.  The computer compares steering angle with actual angle of the vehicle and applies light braking to keep the vehicle stable.  It means you get much better grip if one wheel loses traction and enables the 'moose test' to be passed at faster speeds.

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