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RoGeorge:
It's the propaganda we all have been exposed to (here the western propaganda), that makes us virtue-signaling out of the blue.

There is the so called brain plasticity, the brain is being continuously shaped by the stimuli it is exposed to, no matter what.  Therefore propaganda affects everybody.  No matter if the subject is aware or not about the exposure to propaganda, the subject will still be mind conditioned eventually.  :-\

The western world does censorship, too, similar with China.  We have laws against holocaust deniers, against spread covid misinformation, or antisemitism, or hate speech, etc.  Australia has laws against encryption, some nordic countries have laws against criticizing their politicians, and so on.  :-//

So yes, China bad.  Similar with everybody else.
Black Phoenix:

--- Quote from: RoGeorge on March 23, 2023, 04:31:28 pm ---It's the propaganda we all have been exposed to (here the western propaganda), that makes us virtue-signaling out of the blue.

There is the so called brain plasticity, the brain is being continuously shaped by the stimuli it is exposed to, no matter what.  Therefore propaganda affects everybody.  No matter if the subject is aware or not about the exposure to propaganda, the subject will still be mind conditioned eventually.  :-\

The western world does censorship, too, similar with China.  We have laws against holocaust deniers, against spread covid misinformation, or antisemitism, or hate speech, etc.  Australia has laws against encryption, some nordic countries have laws against criticizing their politicians, and so on.  :-//

So yes, China bad.  Similar with everybody else.

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What, is this going to turn into hate discussion, politics and semantics?
floobydust:
Today, watching live the TikTok CEO congress hearing, he's getting skewered and not giving answers about data collection, storage and how ByteDance and subsidiaries must commit to the chinese constitution regarding support of government surveillance, as one point.
This kind of thing does not make Westerners happy and yes I know google, facebook etc. are already doing that and we the West allow it. It's propaganda wars and the data collection continues en masse.
Baidu collecting I can't see it any different than other webcrawlers, suck all the knowledge out of the Western brains- but at some point people have to think for themselves which is the hard part.
magic:

--- Quote from: T3sl4co1l on March 23, 2023, 01:14:16 pm ---Great opportunity to trot out this one. ;D

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This pasta needs Sidney Rittenberg added to make it equally politically incorrect in America >:D :-DD
SiliconWizard:
Yeah, I don't particularly care about this coming from China rather than from anywhere else.

This raises a more general concern, and it's precisely about mass data collection, which is nothing new but it sure is rising exponentially these days.

Yes, sure, forums and web sites contents in general that have open access... can be freely accessed by anyone. That's something you accept implicitely when you own a web site or forum, that's actually what makes them interesting business-wise. You want exposure.

Does that mean that their content can and should be used for just any purpose (including data collection) without the owner's consent?
IMO, search engines should stop where they were supposed to stop, which is just referencing, to help people find your content. Any other use in terms of data collection should require the owner's consent.
That is my opinion on this anyway.

But as I already said about "AI", this is just the beginning and those data collection services are pushing as hard as possible to shatter IP laws an deprive authors of any right.

Just a small reminder, but just because you publish some content as an author doesn't directly imply that anyone is free to use said content for any purpose. That's what IP is all about, and if you think otherwise, then you either haven't understood IP or you want it abolished.

This is an extremely slippery slope.
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