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Zoli:

--- Quote from: eti on March 24, 2023, 01:05:22 am ---...
We Brits started the Industrial Revolution. Americans built upon it, and at some point down the line the Chinese cloned it all. Look at the most used and prominent inventions used every day - the majority were invented here in the UK. Before any Americans pipe up and claim said inventions, remember, we have been here many many hundreds of years before todays’ America came to be - we discovered you in 1492!

No doubt some replies with wildly faulty logic will follow, desperate to “disprove” this but the gist of it is, even though just a gist, we have the inventing in our culture and DNA here in the UK.

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And without the continental electric discoveries we would be stuck in the steam(punk) era...
eti:

--- Quote from: PlainName on March 25, 2023, 11:17:31 pm ---
--- Quote ---As for the nationalist fervor, or jingoism or what have you, in this thread...
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Aren't you taking that a bit seriously? Apart from the initial jibe, which followed the usual form from that poster, the rest seems to me to be reasonably unserious top trumps or whatever game you call it. I don't see anyone likely to fall out with anyone else over this, or take offense, or start a fatwa or whatever.

Nationalist pride is nothing unusual or to be ashamed of. Abusing it is a problem, but the dorks that would do that would use something else if it wasn't this, and I don't see any of those sorts in this thread.

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This is EEVblog forums, EVERYTHING is "taken seriously" here  ;D - because heaven forfend that anyone be light-hearted and allow things to be water off a ducks' back. I express myself with directness and passion, I am aware I speak my mind - but better to speak one's mind and be aware of it, and maybe come back and apologise when less worked up, than to be stiff, un-yielding and MISERABLE like A GIGANTINC amount of members here.... miserable as sin! LOL  :-DD - their faces would LITERALLY CRACK if they laughed!

I have aspergers, which means I can be pretty literal, but even so, I know life IS NOT ALL SYSTEMS, RESISTORS AND MEASUREMENTS! LOL! Got to have a laugh or you'd crack up - and intend to have a laugh, I SURELY DO, and if you don't like it, be a misery in your own company!  :-+ :-DD ;)
tszaboo:

--- Quote from: T3sl4co1l on March 25, 2023, 12:20:18 am ---Or 2., acknowledging that that darkness exists within all of us (or at least a sizable minority of us), and that we can better ourselves, to rise above that violent streak and treat one another with love and respect no matter who we are, or where we are from; and to monitor such events as (or before) they unfold, and hold our leaders accountable to reduce or eliminate such acts; and better research and understand why and how such events come to be: to understand systemic racism; cycles of poverty, crime and violence; to understand colonialism and imperialism, and their use of these behaviors and conditions as tools, to control and mold the populations they dominate; and so on.

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I don't think that most people have a very good understanding of the horrible things they are capable of under different circumstances. They haven't fully integrated their self, and haven't embraced their own darkness. They look at history, and think that the people doing those horrible events were somehow different then them. They were not people, not like me. Look at them marching below that flag.

The same people don't believe that under the same circumstances they would march under the same flag. Just the same.
A good man is someone who is capable of doing terrible things but choses not to. Not someone who is not capable of anything.

And they don't fully understand the horrible things they are doing , marching under a different flag, today. History will look at us and judge us with their own morals a hundred years from now, and you will be cancelled on twitter for what you have done.
PlainName:
Yes, people can revert to animalistic ways when the shit hits the fan (if they need an excuse), but feeling part of a group is not the cause of that. Being nationalistic is just being part of something on a larger scale than, say, family, or the street, or city. Or, indeed, footy. But that grouping is just an excuse, and if it wasn't a flag it would make of car or supplier of unobtainium chips, or something. You might as well accuse beefburgers of being a sign since they sell them at football stadiums and the yobs eat them.
T3sl4co1l:

--- Quote from: PlainName on March 27, 2023, 11:35:01 am ---Yes, people can revert to animalistic ways when the shit hits the fan (if they need an excuse), but feeling part of a group is not the cause of that.

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It is exactly that...

Humans are animals, no matter how much some of us may fool ourselves otherwise.  We might argue we have more complex dynamics than other animals, which, sure, that's fine -- but it is a dynamic nonetheless, fixed by and inextricably linked to our evolution, just as any other animal.

It is exactly human nature, our animalistic nature, that we (or many of us, anyway) feel the need to be part of a group, and to take actions to affirm the status of the group, and the individual within it.  Or to refuse to take action, thereby allowing other adverse action to take place.  Fear, survival, is an incredible de/motivator.

It is possible to separate oneself from this dynamic, at least in part.  But it's also a very lonely existence, and few have the will, or reason, to do so.  (Example: one could probably argue, say, certain Buddhist monks follow such a path.  Again, at least in part.  A desire to separate oneself from all desires, is a paradox of course.)

Tim
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