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| Jester:
--- Quote from: floobydust on August 12, 2022, 06:21:38 pm ---OP, about the safety aspect- I typically see IEC 60950 certification but this standard is 30 years old, now withdrawn and replaced by IEC 62368 Dec. 2020, as part of the change to hazard-based safety standards. edit: Amazon could easily have a "safety approvals" field with the item information. "NONE" :palm: --- End quote --- IMO the IEC 62368 hazards-based approach is more intuitive than the older 60950/61010 standards. Many years ago I found myself perusing the standards page by page to determine what was applicable and what was not for a particular product. Other than spelling out the nuances for example the details of ground stud wiring a fair bit of the standard would not apply to the device you were designing. Ultimately is was mostly about identifying the hazardous energy sources and dealing with them. I actually have an isolated USB hub on my bench and normally use it with unknown devices, I’m kicking myself for the rookie mistake of trusting an unknown device, the isolated and un-isolated ports are within 6” of each other. |
| james_s:
--- Quote from: blacksheeplogic on August 12, 2022, 04:24:14 am ---So your an upstanding ethical member of the community wanting to record people without their knowledge for whatever reason, bought the cheapest device you could find from a company with catering to these morally outstanding people and got burnt (or rather your laptop did). Sorry to hear that. --- End quote --- If you don't want to be recorded, stay off my property, you have no room to try to shame anyone for protecting their own property when you don't even have any idea of the circumstances it is being done. I'm sick of pro-criminal people falling all over themselves to protect the crooks at the expense of everyone else. |
| james_s:
--- Quote from: bd139 on August 12, 2022, 11:53:04 am --- --- Quote from: abquke on August 12, 2022, 12:15:33 am ---Amazon and eBay have converged to the point where I just use eBay. --- End quote --- This is ok until your eBay purchase turns up in an Amazon package and you worked out you paid 2x the amazon amount for it and some bastard has pocketed the difference. If this ever happens, open a return with eBay. It’s hilariously expensive and time consuming for the seller to deal with so they mostly ignore you and you get to keep the item :-DD :-DD --- End quote --- This has happened to me a few times and it annoys me, I didn't bother to try to screw them over though. Ironically I've had the same thing happen with Amazon too, I ordered something a while back and it arrived in a box from Sam's Club. I absolutely loathe these ridiculous marketplace things that nearly every online seller is using now. You never really know who you're actually buying from and they make it difficult to avoid. It's going to eventually dilute all these brands as they become nothing more than a facade for dozens of other retailers. |
| tooki:
I couldn’t agree more. I used to enjoy Amazon back when, other than used books, it was just them selling. The search worked well, and Amazon’s prices, while not always the lowest, were always decent. Now I literally can’t be bothered. Ordering just takes way, way, WAY too long. Between wading through pages of keyword-stuffed third party crap that isn’t the specific thing I want, to often only third-party availability even if it is what I want, only to discover that it can’t be shipped to Switzerland anyway (since their stupid search lists an item if any variant from any seller happens to ship to Switzerland, even if the variant I searched for isn’t available from any seller that ships here). Sometimes it’ll tell me that right on the product page, other times it won’t tell me until I attempt to check out. It’s absolutely maddening, and shows absolute disdain for the user’s time. Amazon used to design its website to be user-first. I used to work in user interface design, and in regards to online shops, people used to say “when in doubt, look to see how Amazon is doing it” because they were so consistently good. That’s certainly gone out the window… |
| bd139:
It’s designed carefully to confuse you into making a profitable purchase for them. |
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