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tooki:
What do you mean? I think Digi-Key shows it more prominently than Mouser.

Terry Bites:
Yep, I've been Fu***d over by fedex buying from PCB way.
Way more than double the package value.
I hate them nearly as much as DHL. (OK, not as badly)

They think they're a branch of governement and can arbitrarily slap on uncalculated random duty and VAT.
Not just VAT on the goods but the postage as well. Between EU and UK they are hitting both sender and reciever for VAT on postage.
Thats got to be a crime? (But not as criminal as brexit).

free_electron:

--- Quote from: Terry Bites on January 13, 2023, 04:12:17 pm ---They think they're a branch of governement and can arbitrarily slap on uncalculated random duty and VAT.

--- End quote ---
They can only release containers of imported stuff once duty is paid. if no accurate invoices or data is avaialble they slap on enough value so it will pass the duty inspectors scrutiny. They are working against time. The duty officrs job is to line the governments pockets.

Go growl at your government that wants to milk anything you do. You make money ? tax !. you want to spend money on a car ? tax again! ah, you want to drive it too ? road tax ! Wait , you need fuel ? taaaax !  you have a garage to store it ? taaaaaaaaaaax ! It produces exhaust ... tax ! Let's mkae registration mandatory and issue licence plates : tax !

Somewhere in a government back room there are people brainstorming what next to tax. You are collecting the rain that falls on your roof ? tax ! because it means you will use less city water so they lose the tax income. Soon they will make rain illegal.

We are evolving to a future where they measure the amoun of oxygen you breath and the co2 (and methane on the other end) you produce. they will also measure the food you eat and the amount of boom-boom you produce. They will tax you according to what you eat and in what quantity. Oh you are sick ? diabetes ? too many sodas. you drank 409 gallon in your lifetime. So we won;t help you. our health system is overloaded and you got it by your own fault. should not have drank that much soda. and all that carbonated stuff ... every time you burped you added more co2 to the environment... here's your tax bill.

If the politicians want money they should get a job just like anyone else instead of milking us.

MadScientist:
 :-+Within the EU VAT law is entirely harmonised and is the same across the EU

Free postage from outside the eu never includes customs duty or vat as thd supplier cannot determine in advance what the clearance costs will be. Mouser is very unusual in this ss they do groupage bulk clearance ( is they do not import the orders into the eu seperately) hence they swallow that cost on a total consignment basis which is far better

Since postage /courier is vatable then the Delivery must charge you vat on the goods and any associated services such as delivery otherwise foreign delivery agents would have an unfair advantage over domestic delivery agents who must legally charge vat for their services

It’s not complex , just suck it up

I have a EORI number which you can get as a person , fedex re Jesse the shipment against that number and invoice me seperateky for duty and it vat after I have already received the shipment

If you do t have a EORI number they will typically demand advance payment

EORI has nothing to do to vat registration. Which by the way is also available to individuals if you want tk go down that road and you can reclaim thd vat

It’s clear from the  replies here that somepeople simply don’t understand vat

Sadly customs clearance fees are unregulated and I find fedex one of the worse but if you email them they can tell you the typical schedule of customs  clearance charges. These Are not mostly levied by fedex but the countries official custom clearance process. FedEx just pass it on.

MadScientist:

--- Quote from: free_electron on January 13, 2023, 04:38:12 pm ---
--- Quote from: Terry Bites on January 13, 2023, 04:12:17 pm ---They think they're a branch of governement and can arbitrarily slap on uncalculated random duty and VAT.

--- End quote ---
They can only release containers of imported stuff once duty is paid. if no accurate invoices or data is avaialble they slap on enough value so it will pass the duty inspectors scrutiny. They are working against time. The duty officrs job is to line the governments pockets.

Go growl at your government that wants to milk anything you do. You make money ? tax !. you want to spend money on a car ? tax again! ah, you want to drive it too ? road tax ! Wait , you need fuel ? taaaax !  you have a garage to store it ? taaaaaaaaaaax ! It produces exhaust ... tax ! Let's mkae registration mandatory and issue licence plates : tax !

Somewhere in a government back room there are people brainstorming what next to tax. You are collecting the rain that falls on your roof ? tax ! because it means you will use less city water so they lose the tax income. Soon they will make rain illegal.

We are evolving to a future where they measure the amoun of oxygen you breath and the co2 (and methane on the other end) you produce. they will also measure the food you eat and the amount of boom-boom you produce. They will tax you according to what you eat and in what quantity. Oh you are sick ? diabetes ? too many sodas. you drank 409 gallon in your lifetime. So we won;t help you. our health system is overloaded and you got it by your own fault. should not have drank that much soda. and all that carbonated stuff ... every time you burped you added more co2 to the environment... here's your tax bill.

If the politicians want money they should get a job just like anyone else instead of milking us.

--- End quote ---

Customs is as old as julius Caesar !!  It’s a fact of life
Theirs is no evidence to back up 99% of the non sense you write. Health agencies will treat ill people irrespective

Tax is a good things it’s supports education health , infrastructure etc. be happy you clearly have the income to pay it.

Either that or li d on a deserted island I’m sure FedEx “ might” find you ( eventually )

To add to your BS , there are many ways you can arrange release of goods and post pay duties and or vat. Clearly you have no idea how the system works

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