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| tooki:
--- Quote from: MadScientist on January 14, 2023, 12:53:15 pm --- --- Quote from: tooki on January 13, 2023, 05:31:12 pm --- --- Quote from: MadScientist on January 13, 2023, 04:47:32 pm ---Free postage from outside the eu never includes customs duty or vat as thd supplier cannot determine in advance what the clearance costs will be. Mouser is very unusual in this ss they do groupage bulk clearance ( is they do not import the orders into the eu seperately) hence they swallow that cost on a total consignment basis which is far better --- End quote --- Mouser is far from alone in doing that, because it’s not unknowable. I’m sure it’s anything but trivial to set up, but it is doable. Then it’s shipped precleared so that the carrier does not have to collect any VAT or duty. --- End quote --- Actually while not that diffult the rules for DDP are quite restrictive and anyway only apply upto €135. After that you are forced to post clear. --- End quote --- Citation needed. I can't find any reference to a €135 threshold, just to a GBP135 threshold on parcels entering the UK. But it doesn't have anything to do with DDP as such. --- Quote from: MadScientist on January 14, 2023, 12:53:15 pm ---In order to do what mouser are doing you must have a financial entity registered in the eU hence for small foreign suppliers ddp or mouser style groupage simply isn’t legally possible. In fact the costs are are such that you need a big foreign import activity to justify it ( if you have substantial EU source and supply it doesn’t work ) Hence it’s not a catch all solution nor is ddp. --- End quote --- What's the "it" you're talking about here, if not DDP? As I understand it, DDP is the solution. How DDP must be handled between country pairs varies (so a seller has to figure this out), but the result is that if done as DDP, the buyer owes nothing and doesn't need to worry about it. If the buyer ends up owing something, then it wasn't DDP. |
| MadScientist:
--- Quote from: Berni on January 05, 2023, 07:00:22 am ---Yeah unfortunately we have to deal with this crap when importing stuff into Europe. None of this is STs fault. It is the local government enforcing import tax and then shipping carriers using it as an excuse to charge more money. This is the reason why i love AliExpress shipping options. It costs a bit extra but they somehow magically get the package into the EU and then send it trough the post from there. As a result there is never any import bullshit. --- End quote --- Governments in the EU must recover vat it’s not “ local gov anything “ AliExpress is fine under the DDP limit of 135 euris clearance above that gets pricey depending on the carrier The only issues is customs “ clearance “ charges that’s currently unregulated The Eu is considering raising the DDP LIMIT to €1000, so we’ll see, in addition legal limits to clearance feees should be enacted EU wide in my opinion There Is nothing magical about Ali or mouser both do groups shipments mouser does it better then AliExpress as they are not limited by the DDP limit whereas AliExpress are |
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