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DiTBho:

--- Quote from: ebastler on August 25, 2023, 08:20:40 pm ---Complete off-the-shelf rear wheels with various hub styles are quite commonly available over here. I would guesstimate a dozen different German online shops, plus some Amazon and ebay sellers.

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Can you list online German online shops so I can help my non-UK-based colleagues?

In my direct experience, eBay and Amazon are not reliable for professional services, especially with regards to shipping!
DiTBho:
@beanflying
changed my mind, today I fully assembled a rear wheel using a RS-RF3 hub instead of the Nexus-INTER-3/SG-3C41.

It weighs less (900g!!!), and from road tests it offers less friction.

My definitive choice  :D

I'm not a professional, from cutting the spokes, threading them, assembling a first draft of the wheel, and arriving at the finished and "camber-ed" wheel, it takes me almost 10 hours of work, considering 3 breaks, lunch, tea, dinner and short test on the road, so now for those of my colleagues who want to replicate the thing, I have to find an online service so I avoid spending my weekends assembling wheels for free!
ebastler:

--- Quote from: DiTBho on August 30, 2023, 12:35:09 pm ---Can you list online German online shops so I can help my non-UK-based colleagues?

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Here are a few vendors of complete rear wheels. I have only Googled for complete off-the-shelf wheels here, not custom assembly.

Disclaimers: (a) No personal experience, no relationship etc. (b) The Sturmey Archer hub you eventually switched to seems rather uncommon over here, and I could not find any complete wheels including one of these. Shimano is much easier, both their 3-gear and 7/8-gear hubs. (c) Many of the websites below will be in German only.

https://www.kurbelix.de/fahrradteile/fahrrad-laufraeder/hinterraeder-nabenschaltung/3-gang/
https://www.taylor-wheels.de/28-zoll-hinterrad-aluminiumfelge-shimano-nexus-3-gang-ruecktritt-schwarz
https://www.zweiradnetz.de/laufrad/laufraeder-fertig/hinterraeder-fertig/28-zoll-hinterrad-schuermann-nexus3-r-silber-kaufen
https://www.bikeparts.de/Fahrradteile/Fahrrad-Komplettlaufraeder/Hinterraeder-fuer-Nabenschaltungen:::115_2200_5634.html
https://boc24.de/collections/hr-nabenschaltung
https://www.toma-fahrrad.de/Fahrrad-Teile/Laufraeder-Felgen/Hinterrad-Nabenschaltung
https://fahrradhandel-dortmund.de/collections/laufrad-felgen/grosse_28-zoll+laufrad-typ_hinterrad
https://bicycles.de/products/laufrad-hr-28-zoll-zac-nexus-8-g?variant=41641354789049
https://hollandbikeshop.com/de-de/fahrrad-laufrader/laufrad-hinten/hinterrad-28-zoll/?page=1
DiTBho:
worse still when the wheel is for a track bike frame, or 80s titanium like my Speedwell Titalite (6 speed derailleur), with an O.L.N.=120mm, and you have to fit a 3-speed internal gear hub(1).

I somehow did it  8)

(no guys, I cursed so much both to assemble the wheel and to then mount it, that
I don't think I can make another one ... )


(1) theoretically a 4 speed too, with first speed set on the direct drive sprocket, which would be super very nice and super useful, but you'd have to saw off the built-in brake arm because in this case those "donkeys" don't make a hub without it, and it adds nothing but extra weight (+260g!!!) and unnecessary space on the axis
ebastler:

--- Quote from: DiTBho on August 30, 2023, 03:06:51 pm ---worse still when the wheel is for a track bike frame, or 80s titanium like my Speedwell Titalite (6 speed derailleur), with an O.L.N.=120mm, and you have to fit a 3-speed internal gear hub(1).

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Oh, I must have missed that part, sorry. I guess that's where the "off the shelf" approach falls apart, whether in the UK or in Germany...  :-\
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