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Biden admin moving forward with light bulb bans in coming weeks

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kripton2035:
in europe, at least in france, we can't buy any halogen or incandescent light bulb for home since many years.
I don't remember when but it may be 10 years ago !
it's really consume less with led light
if you don't like the color of "white" leds, just buy rgb leds and choose the color you want...

edit: it was in september 2018...so 5 years.

AndyBeez:
Yanks: Prepare for America to be flooded with the same crap quality Chinese lightbulbs that have been afflicting Europe for the last decade. Fact, SMD LEDs last for around 50,000 hours. Inconvenient truth, put them in a lightbulb, overdrive the LED's to make them bright and, they last no more than 50 weeks. Which is about the same life span of a classic tungsten bulb. So you have to buy another one = re$ult. Anyone thinking about the mountain of extra e-waste? Teardown an LED light bulb and you'll understand just how ecologically sound these are, not.

I agree that each bulb uses less energy, but how many more light fixtures do we have in our homes when compared to 30 year's ago? If California and Texas really want to keep the lights on, then maybe they should consider buying less Teslas?

tom66:

--- Quote from: AndyBeez on April 02, 2023, 11:45:03 am ---Yanks: Prepare for America to be flooded with the same crap quality Chinese lightbulbs that have been afflicting Europe for the last decade. Fact, SMD LEDs last for around 50,000 hours. Inconvenient truth, put them in a lightbulb, overdrive the LED's to make them bright and, they last no more than 50 weeks. Which is about the same life span of a classic tungsten bulb. So you have to buy another one = re$ult. Anyone thinking about the mountain of extra e-waste? Teardown an LED light bulb and you'll understand just how ecologically sound these are, not.

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Buy cheap, buy twice.  I've 8 year old LED bulbs bought from Costco that are still fine and used daily.  They were ~£5 each.  I now have Ikea Tradfri in a few locations as smart RGB lighting on a Zigbee network.  Reports are that these should easily do 5 years based on other feedback. 

Besides, even if a LED bulb only lasted a year, do you really think it is better to use incandescent?  2,000 hour lifespan consumes 120kWh in the case of incandescent, but only 12kWh in case of LED.  Do you think a LED bulb costs more than 108kWh to manufacture?  At current industrial prices, that would mean a bulb would cost more than £10 in electricity alone.  Some electricity is more polluting than other electricity, sure, but the energy consumption of manufacturing a LED bulb really can't be that high if they can land on the store shelf for under £3 a bulb.

kripton2035:
I changed halogen bulbs quite often before. sorry to say, but I didn't change a lot of my (almost all chinese) leds since  I installed then years ago also
it was really before the halogen bulb were no more for sale here.
I still change some led light from time to time, but it is really less than incandescent or halogen.

Stray Electron:

--- Quote from: BrianHG on April 02, 2023, 11:06:58 am ---
And yet, in some US states, it is still currently illegal to have 'Day Beam' headlights or run your headlights during the day because of the slight extra load on your alternator, ....

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   really?  source?   I haven't heard this. although it wouldn't surprise me in some of the People's Republics.

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