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Zero999:

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I'll tell you one thing, I'll be danged I'm going to put those gay, blue, hideous, over-bright, stabbing, abomination LED lights on my vehicle.

Thanks,
IM

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So, just how are you able to determine the sexuality of an LED light, and why do you think its particular preference is a bad thing?

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Gay=Happy, jolly

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That’s clearly not what OP meant. They were using the puerile meaning of “gay” to mean “lame”.

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Another example of misinterpretation "justified by modern times"; personally, I stick to the complete meanings, and I will promote the lost meanings; welcome to my fight.
I understand and accept that the language is a live, changing entity; at the same time I remember:"Those who forget the past, are doomed to repeat it".
For our future discussions, please remember.
Thank you.

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I believe the use of the term gay in the pejorative sense predates it meaning homosexual. I suppose I can see why some find it offensive, hence the moderator editing the original post, but life is too short to get upset. It should be obvious the OP wasn't gay bashing.


--- Quote from: schmitt trigger on April 02, 2023, 03:28:36 pm ---I also searched for the original Fox News source, and read it thoroughly. The news piece has this golden nugget, copied verbatim:

 Former President Donald Trump was also personally opposed to LED light bulb adoption, remarking in 2019 that they are often more expensive, not good and make him "look orange."

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BAN LED LAMPS, LETS GO BRANDON! !  !  !
No seriously, there should be laws mandating minimum quality standards for LED lamps: efficiency, CRI, cooling, not too higher current density, minimum warranty, to ensure they last a decent length of time.

Kim Christensen:

--- Quote from: mendip_discovery on April 03, 2023, 06:29:40 pm ---The only issue I have with LED is the noise.
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You mean RFI? The bulbs I buy use a linear dropper IC to regulate the current. Not as efficient as a switcher, but no RFI either.

Zero999:

--- Quote from: Kim Christensen on April 03, 2023, 07:12:24 pm ---
--- Quote from: mendip_discovery on April 03, 2023, 06:29:40 pm ---The only issue I have with LED is the noise.
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You mean RFI? The bulbs I buy use a linear dropper IC to regulate the current. Not as efficient as a switcher, but no RFI either.

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I prefer SMPS. It's easy to design a lamp which will work for both 120V and 240V, is more efficient and works at higher temperatures and it's not too difficult to design one which meets the EMC standards.

My favourite supply is the plain old capacitive dropper. It's efficient and simple. A big problem is many manufacturers skimp on the capacitor, so they blow up.

Simon:

--- Quote from: james_s on April 03, 2023, 05:52:54 pm ---There is another valid reason some prefer incandescent. In parts of the midwest USA there are very frequent thunderstorms, lightning induced power surges are very common and destructive to electronics, Incandescent is much more robust and resistant to surges. I also have to admit that the light quality of incandescent is at least slightly better than even the best LED bulbs. You just can't beat the smooth continuous spectrum, perfect 100 CRI and complete lack of flicker. Good LED bulbs are good enough for most of my purposes but if energy were free I would still choose incandescent for many of them.

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It's always the same. No one likes change and the old stuff is always the best - bring out every silly excuse and conspiracy around -. I have found LED's liberating, finally I can have a room light like by the sun. LED's do have good CRI if you bought them recently and it means you can have way more light. I used to feel very tired in the evenings, it was because fluorescent lamps are yellow, telling my brain to go to sleep. In a large room even with a 100W incandescent that is still not daylight it will not be good enough.

Me, myself and my better half share our evenings in a living room that is not even too big with a 40W corn on the cob 5500K light, and we love it. We are perfectly happy and active right up until bed time and no the "blue light" does not stop us from sleeping!

Zero999:

--- Quote from: james_s on April 03, 2023, 05:52:54 pm ---There is another valid reason some prefer incandescent. In parts of the midwest USA there are very frequent thunderstorms, lightning induced power surges are very common and destructive to electronics, Incandescent is much more robust and resistant to surges. I also have to admit that the light quality of incandescent is at least slightly better than even the best LED bulbs. You just can't beat the smooth continuous spectrum, perfect 100 CRI and complete lack of flicker. Good LED bulbs are good enough for most of my purposes but if energy were free I would still choose incandescent for many of them.

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Old fluorescent lamps with an iron ballast are tough and still beat incandescent.

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