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| asmi:
--- Quote from: Jester on March 29, 2023, 09:33:14 pm ---In Canada, we use to have AP Circuits for somewhat affordable quick turn 2 layer boards, they could not compete with the dumping, long gone. Having access to low cost, quick turn boards spurs development. I would love to send my PCB money to someone local, I hope it happens, they need to loose their old ways of small run setup fees and two week delivery unless you pay a premium. --- End quote --- Onshore PCB fabs are parasitizing off defence contracts (and other cases when PCBs are lerally or otherwise mandated to be made domestically) when customers don't have a choice and will pay any price because at the end of the day they are using taxpayer's money, not their own. Which is why those fabs have zero insentive to innovate aiming at reducing their costs. |
| asmi:
--- Quote from: Fgrir on March 31, 2023, 02:30:20 pm ---True, but you don't have to send the gerbers for your latest missile or radar design to China to buy laminates. --- End quote --- If suppliers restrict your ability to procure those laminates, those latest missile or radar designs will only exist on paper. |
| floobydust:
Globalism has no nationalism. Profit and lowest price are the priority.... until... it's needed for military defense. Unfortunately I see the industries going extinct can take years to build, or are never coming back. Those days are long gone of building technology 100% America. It's the same situation with semiconductors - the chemicals, epoxy, machines etc. made overseas. So all these new fangled fabs in Texas, just ordering stuff from elsewhere and as dependent as always, despite the (late) $$billions on subsidies and hoopla to keep votes. |
| mendip_discovery:
For years even in the UK we banned the use of chemicals used for the manufacturing of products. So they moved elsewhere where the rules aren't followed as much. Now the UK is crying becuase they don't have the businesses to make the stuff anymore. I do enjoy they way the fat cats made money as they sold off the business abroad, now they get to make more as they setup businesses to do the work they used to do. One trick used to be buy lots of new kit with grants from the government. Never unpack it, send it over to other places and setup there with the money offered. Close the UK site down. |
| james_s:
There used to be a PCB fab less than 2 miles from my house, it outsourced all that work to China around 15 years ago though, the business is a shell of its former self, the building is mostly empty with just a couple of guys working in the front office. |
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