Dale Dougherty, CEO of Make magazine, accuses Naomi Wu to be fake

[NiHaoMike]

I look at her as being an actor, like the front "men" of Milli Vanilli were.
They did that very good, very successful.

But on the society side, I don't think it's a good thing.
It could make women, who previously wanted to go into science/electronics, think they have to comply to that kind of looks and image.

More conservative women in engineering like Rinoa Super-Genius and Micah Elizabeth Scott do well to balance it out.

[Marco]

Well, film is a visual medium, that is trying to gain the eyeballs of visually oriented humans.

As is youtube. Objectification is just an inherent side effect of capitalism, as long as we're chasing money we will do a lot of distasteful things.

Whether it's using sex appeal, or destroying our bodies in physical labour. Sure it's a shame young girls might feel pressured to follow the same distasteful path, but no more of a shame than boys feeling pressured into back breaking labour. From a capitalist point of view our bodies are objects, showing some T&A is low on the totem pole of how our bodies get abused.

[NiHaoMike]

Whether it's using sex appeal, or destroying our bodies in physical labour. Sure it's a shame young girls might feel pressured to follow the same distasteful path, but no more of a shame than boys feeling pressured into back breaking labour. From a capitalist point of view our bodies are objects, showing some T&A is low on the totem pole of how our bodies get abused.

In the US, excessively demanding labor is not commonly desired as it tends to pay relatively little. (I suppose it depends on your definition of "excessively demanding"...) On that note, some might object to how Rinoa Super-Genius insists on staying very modest while working in the yard on a hot summer day.

Those who object to Naomi showing off too much are really going to have a time with the services that allow college girls to get nude in front of a camera to collect Bitcoin. I think those services have largely gone away ever since Bitcoin actually became worth something, not sure as I never really looked. Even though I have never viewed content from such a service, I have a biased view in favor of them because one of my friends used one to help pay for college.

Meanwhile, neither Micah Elizabeth Scott nor Joanne Chiang get very many complaints about the way they look on video. Maybe the middle ground really is the most sensible approach...

[Marco]

In the US, excessively demanding labor is not commonly desired as it tends to pay relatively little.

You work with what you have got, some have brains, some have a body which can be run into the ground, some have a body which can be pumped full of silicone.

[NiHaoMike]

You work with what you have got, some have brains, some have a body which can be run into the ground, some have a body which can be pumped full of silicone.

When someone decides to save some money going the DIY route (as I often do, I admit), there's more criticism that it's one less job for those poor workers to do than praise that a poor worker didn't have to tire himself out doing it. You should see how angry the HVAC techs get when a DIYer asks for help, as if they really enjoy doing the work!

On that note, one of my friends once did HVAC service work for 2 years before becoming a HVAC engineer in order to better understand the real world of HVAC. She had a surprisingly easy time selling preventative maintenance. (Looks apparently matter there!) It's kind of sad once she moved on that her good looks will mostly not be seen by the end user of the equipment she works on, but gaining knowledge - namely designing for serviceability - was the primary goal. (She's somewhere between "Micah Elizabeth Scott" and "Joanne Chiang" in terms of "showing off" - basically right in the middle of the scale. In physical ability, she's kind of like Rinoa Super-Genius.)

[BroMarduk]

Well, it looks like there has been some peace made...

https://blog.adafruit.com/2018/01/08/naomi-wu-on-the-cover-of-make-magazine-realsexycyborg-make/

[FrankBuss]

Well, it looks like there has been some peace made...

https://blog.adafruit.com/2018/01/08/naomi-wu-on-the-cover-of-make-magazine-realsexycyborg-make/

I didn't know that you can certify a project as open source hardware. Looks like it is really popular, already about 100 registered projects 

http://certificate.oshwa.org/certification-directory/

So if I want to use the open source hardware logo, do I have to certify my project? I'm a bit worried about it, because they list fines up to $1000 per month, if something is wrong.