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Bluetooth device registration is $8000.
nctnico:
--- Quote from: mikeselectricstuff on February 19, 2021, 04:01:41 pm ---
--- Quote from: JohnnyMalaria on February 19, 2021, 02:39:19 pm ---Why shouldn't you pay to benefit from their technology?
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1) Because you're paying the people you buy the Bluetooth module or chipset from. The purchase of that should convey all licensing needed to sell the product containing it.
2) Is it reasonable to be expected to pay exactly the same fee to ship ten products as ten million ?
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In general you have to check what the license of the module / chip says regarding licensing c.q. whether the license fee for using the technology has been paid or not. It could be the module / chipset passed testing but the fees to use the technology in a product has not. For chips this is probably not the case where it comes to Bluetooth (and similar protocols) because the external RF components are part of the test requirements.
JohnnyMalaria:
--- Quote from: mikeselectricstuff on February 19, 2021, 04:01:41 pm ---2) Is it reasonable to be expected to pay exactly the same fee to ship ten products as ten million ?
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Yes, because that's the license model - unlimited royalty-free. But you can choose a royalty-based license if you wish (e.g., ANT+). You have the choice. Both options are "reasonable". If you don't like what's on offer, find a different solution.
VK3DRB:
None of this is new. The Bluetooth people will threaten to sue you unless you pay their exorbitance fees. I know - it happened in a company I worked with. They use BOTs to surf the web to find products that use the Bluetooth symbol or word.
The problem with Bluetooth is even if you use a certified Bluetooth module in your product - bad luck, you have to pay - for each and every product variant.
These greed mongers have made it very punitive for small startups. They simply do not care. They want their money. "Truth, Justice and the American Way", each of which is a farce.
Monkeh:
And of course they have a practical monopoly on short range radio interfaces, seeing as every laptop, phone, and tablet out there has Bluetooth..
Day101:
--- Quote from: VK3DRB on February 20, 2021, 04:15:01 am ---None of this is new. The Bluetooth people will threaten to sue you unless you pay their exorbitance fees. I know - it happened in a company I worked with. They use BOTs to surf the web to find products that use the Bluetooth symbol or word.
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Do you know if you had to pay for using the Trademark or for using the technology? Was a lawyer consulted?
--- Quote ---The problem with Bluetooth is even if you use a certified Bluetooth module in your product - bad luck, you have to pay - for each and every product variant.
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Not if it's the same Bluetooth part I think.
https://www.bluetooth.com/develop-with-bluetooth/qualification-listing/
"It may be possible to complete product qualification by adding the product as a new model to one of your existing qualifications."
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