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| bingo600:
--- Quote from: langwadt on February 19, 2021, 02:27:51 pm --- --- Quote from: NiHaoMike on February 19, 2021, 02:19:38 pm ---Perhaps call it "GreenLink" instead. --- End quote --- Blåtand --- End quote --- Or "King Harald" ;) |
| RawCode:
--- Quote from: langwadt on March 01, 2021, 04:18:16 pm --- --- Quote from: SilverSolder on March 01, 2021, 03:50:16 pm --- --- Quote from: RawCode on March 01, 2021, 12:06:58 pm ---[...] How am I supposed to develop, or even sell, a product if I have to pay all the regulatory and licencing stuff? How am I supposed to pay all that money if I have a "student" budget? [...] --- End quote --- You're not, is the answer... you are supposed to get a nice job at a big corporation and be a productive employee, take home a good pay, live a good life, and retire with a stable pension savings fund. --- End quote --- tbf if an $8000 fee is what prevents you from making a startup you probably shouldn't ...... --- End quote --- Well, you're right. But if you consider that you have a 50/100 k€ wall to overcome, between measurements, certifications, licensing and bureaucratic stuff, without even selling a unit of product, well that's a big wall. As a small player/hypothetical start-up, it's just demoralising. |
| JohnnyMalaria:
--- Quote from: RawCode on March 01, 2021, 05:19:30 pm --- --- Quote from: langwadt on March 01, 2021, 04:18:16 pm --- --- Quote from: SilverSolder on March 01, 2021, 03:50:16 pm --- --- Quote from: RawCode on March 01, 2021, 12:06:58 pm ---[...] How am I supposed to develop, or even sell, a product if I have to pay all the regulatory and licencing stuff? How am I supposed to pay all that money if I have a "student" budget? [...] --- End quote --- You're not, is the answer... you are supposed to get a nice job at a big corporation and be a productive employee, take home a good pay, live a good life, and retire with a stable pension savings fund. --- End quote --- tbf if an $8000 fee is what prevents you from making a startup you probably shouldn't ...... --- End quote --- Well, you're right. But if you consider that you have a 50/100 k€ wall to overcome, between measurements, certifications, licensing and bureaucratic stuff, without even selling a unit of product, well that's a big wall. As a small player/hypothetical start-up, it's just demoralising. --- End quote --- Perhaps "sobering" is a better word? All start-ups need money and it usually hurts because it comes from your bank account and not an employer's. |
| SilverSolder:
Our "free" markets actually have considerable barriers to entry for products where the "big players" are involved. If you want to develop and market a new product on a small scale where there is significant risk that the product doesn't "take off", it is much better to stay away from licensed technologies altogether. You can do a lot with open standards like Wi-Fi, for example, without paying anything to anyone (as long as you use an approved module obviously). You can always add the expensive stuff later if things take off. Use your creativity to work around / avoid the problems. That's what makes you an entrepeneur! |
| Day101:
I suppose it depends on the design but for me it's not 50-100K at all. There's no FCC testing, the modules are pre-certified. No need for UL testing, Sell direct via Amazon, shopify, ebay etc (not walmart etc). It's low power so there's no fire risk. Don't sell to Europe or rest of the world for v1. No power supply, just a $2 USB cable. EMC testing is cheap (https://www.sunfiretesting.com/) Right now I'm expecting to hack out Bluetooth and use Shockburst instead. ~1 weeks effort I reckon. And if I get time (LOL) then I'll send data to smartphone via NFC. I also need to file provisional patents (UK is best) this allows me 18 months to file for the rest of the world. Aside from lost earning and the cost of making the prototypes I'm looking at less than $10K including non-refundable engineering fees for ABS moulds etc. |
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