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| rsjsouza:
--- Quote from: tooki on November 02, 2021, 11:21:32 am --- --- Quote from: SilverSolder on February 19, 2021, 05:41:45 pm --- If Bluetooth worked reliably and was stable, it might be worth paying for. As it is, I would choose a piece of physical cable over a Bluetooth connection! --- End quote --- Bluetooth itself is stable. Many software implementations are not. For what it’s worth, I’ve been using Bluetooth since 2003 without any problems. But it’s always been on macOS and iOS, whose Bluetooth support is very robust. It seems to me that the people who’ve complained to me about Bluetooth being unreliable have all been Windows or Linux users, so I guess those software stacks aren’t as good. --- End quote --- A few years ago a friend gave me an old mac mini to play (IIRC a 2008~9 model) and that was the most striking difference that I could see when comparing to similarly equipped contemporary PCs of the same era that ran Windows XP: the bluetooth functionality was not only rock solid, but it was incredibly smooth to setup and pair - light years ahead of what the PC devices had. IME it's been a few years now that not only Bluetooth Classic but also BLE (with some hardware restrictions) can be setup with the same ease on multiple platforms (Windows 7/8.1/10, Ubuntu 18.04/20.04, Chrome OS, Android), but indeed Apple was there much earlier in the game. |
| SilverSolder:
Bluetooth needs to be made as easy to understand (affordance) and as easy to use as a headphone jack... It is far from that level of ease of use even on Apple products. |
| tooki:
--- Quote from: SilverSolder on November 03, 2021, 01:20:57 am --- Bluetooth needs to be made as easy to understand (affordance) and as easy to use as a headphone jack... It is far from that level of ease of use even on Apple products. --- End quote --- It’s about as close as is technically feasible: hold one gadget next to the other, it asks if you want to pair, you tap “connect” and you’re done. (Look for videos demonstrating how AirPods pairing works.) |
| SilverSolder:
If the "connect" point was made much smaller... so there was no doubt that when you touched the devices "connect prongs" together, you wanted to connect... it would work just like a headphone jack! |
| VK3DRB:
--- Quote from: Day101 on February 20, 2021, 10:10:54 am --- --- Quote from: VK3DRB on February 20, 2021, 04:15:01 am ---None of this is new. The Bluetooth people will threaten to sue you unless you pay their exorbitance fees. I know - it happened in a company I worked with. They use BOTs to surf the web to find products that use the Bluetooth symbol or word. --- End quote --- Do you know if you had to pay for using the Trademark or for using the technology? Was a lawyer consulted? --- End quote --- A company I once worked for did. They got a nasty legal letter from Bluetooth's lawyers. The company ended up paying $8K for each product that used the Bluetooth logo on it. Total bill was quite massive (maybe $50K to $100K - I can't remember exactly), but they did pay. I do designs that include Bluetooth Classic or BLE for clients, and I warn them of the risk of having to pay a $8,000 license fee. I leave it to them (the product owner) to do research themselves and consider paying accordingly. |
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