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Bluetooth Low Energy is unsuitable for COVID-19 contact tracing, say inventors
Syntax Error:
Notification: Your phone was recently close to someone who has tested positive for Covid 19. You must self isolate immediately.
Response: Like what ever, wasn't ME holding the phone anyway.
Someone:
--- Quote from: cdev on May 13, 2020, 11:57:19 pm ---But when people are outside, there is virtually no chance of infection, and as I was trying to explain, when people are indoors the locations reported and saved to logs are invariably wrong. They are not accurate indoors. Most dangerous encounters are not in RF transparent buildings. They are in big buildings (work) or underground, neither of which is a good environment for location capture. Dont believe me? Look into "SLAM" on github.
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Unreliable measures of proximity are still vastly superior compared to trying to get an individual to recall when/where they were. Perfection being the enemy of good... any system needn't be perfect, but simply a substantial improvement over whats already existing.
--- Quote from: Syntax Error on May 14, 2020, 12:02:44 am ---Notification: Your phone was recently close to someone who has tested positive for Covid 19. You must self isolate immediately.
Response: Like what ever, wasn't ME holding the phone anyway.
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Thats just the balance/arguments over who should take responsibility, individuals or a state actor. Every society/country will take a different position on that, and individuals may feel unhappy with the balances chosen.
cdev:
Security theater that is totally inaccurate is worse than nothing. What they need is contact tracing. Do you have a GPS tracker? Do this, turn it on, take a walk in a major city, going inside some buildings and going down into the subway. Then dump the trace and convert it into a KML trace. Since you cant upload KML here, maybe zip the file. Upload that. just do that. That will prove my point.
Buriedcode:
--- Quote from: cdev on May 14, 2020, 03:09:12 am ---Security theater that is totally inaccurate is worse than nothing. What they need is contact tracing. Do you have a GPS tracker? Do this, turn it on, take a walk in a major city, going inside some buildings and going down into the subway. Then dump the trace and convert it into a KML trace. Since you cant upload KML here, maybe zip the file. Upload that. just do that. That will prove my point.
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... And you.. expect the majority of citizens in an entire country to do this?
Someone:
--- Quote from: Buriedcode on May 14, 2020, 04:50:03 am ---
--- Quote from: cdev on May 14, 2020, 03:09:12 am ---Security theater that is totally inaccurate is worse than nothing. What they need is contact tracing. Do you have a GPS tracker? Do this, turn it on, take a walk in a major city, going inside some buildings and going down into the subway. Then dump the trace and convert it into a KML trace. Since you cant upload KML here, maybe zip the file. Upload that. just do that. That will prove my point.
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... And you.. expect the majority of citizens in an entire country to do this?
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The fair comparison would be to ask the same people, before they've looked at the data, to draw the same information on a map and timestamp it. Because thats what happens at the moment.
Do people give this information when asked for it? Most of them do.
Should people be required to give this information when asked for it? Sounds political...
Should people be forced to continually provide this information? Now you're certainly getting political
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