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HP printers: even HP toner isn't good enough anymore
« on: March 11, 2025, 11:13:06 am »
Firmware update bricks HP printers, makes them unable to use HP cartridges - https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2025/03/firmware-update-bricks-hp-printers-makes-them-unable-to-use-hp-cartridges/

Affected printers: LaserJet 200 Series

I wonder if those printers are so secure now that they won't print at all, or if HP sells counterfeit toner. >:D


 

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Re: HP printers: even HP toner isn't good enough anymore
« Reply #1 on: March 11, 2025, 11:55:29 am »
When a company focuses on annoying its customers, it can't be surprised when things go according to plan.
 

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Re: HP printers: even HP toner isn't good enough anymore
« Reply #2 on: March 11, 2025, 12:14:22 pm »
When a company focuses on annoying its customers, it can't be surprised when things go according to plan.

Dont be ridiculous.. no one at HP uses HP printers...  >:D
If god made us in his image,
and we are this stupid
then....
 

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Re: HP printers: even HP toner isn't good enough anymore
« Reply #3 on: March 12, 2025, 03:25:54 am »
No HP computer equipment has darkened my doorstep in many years. Expensive tri-color ink cartridges, bloatware that never worked quite right and abandoning products with every major OS change. Learned my lesson and never again.
 

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Re: HP printers: even HP toner isn't good enough anymore
« Reply #4 on: March 12, 2025, 03:44:38 am »
people in the far future will start advanced mental training schools so they can memorize digital documents in order to prevent the re-emergence of printers after the great collapse. The great collapse occurred shortly after the HP and Altium merger that resulted in genesis of Haltium, also known as the AP corporation.

« Last Edit: March 12, 2025, 03:58:00 am by coppercone2 »
 
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Re: HP printers: even HP toner isn't good enough anymore
« Reply #5 on: March 12, 2025, 04:44:52 am »
No HP computer equipment has darkened my doorstep in many years. Expensive tri-color ink cartridges, bloatware that never worked quite right and abandoning products with every major OS change. Learned my lesson and never again.

To be fair, their commercial PCs and enterprise servers/equipment are pretty rock solid, and you'll often find them installed in high-security environments (among other trusted brands).

But yes, their consumer stuff is absolute trash.

Although I did discover a "quirk" with their DL-380P servers. If you install an I/O card in the PCIe slot, it ramps some of the fan speeds up to a constant ~46%. Not only does it increase overall noise, but the pitch at that specific speed is very annoying if the servers are installed in anything other than a proper server room. I don't know if this is limited to non-HP expansion cards, or just ones where it can't directly monitor the card temperature, but I do wonder if they chose that specific value on purpose just to annoy the customer (instead of something like 50%, since it's all PWM anyway).
« Last Edit: March 12, 2025, 04:47:51 am by Halcyon »
 
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Re: HP printers: even HP toner isn't good enough anymore
« Reply #6 on: March 12, 2025, 09:38:15 am »
people in the far future will start advanced mental training schools so they can memorize digital documents in order to prevent the re-emergence of printers after the great collapse. The great collapse occurred shortly after the HP and Altium merger that resulted in genesis of Haltium, also known as the AP corporation.

Like the A&P (US supermarket chain)?
Heh; reminds me of the electronics megastore chain, Fry's, in the SF Bay Area, which grew out of a grocery chain in the Southwest.
The first thing you saw when you came in was a huge display of food, mostly junk food favored by computer nerds.
 

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Re: HP printers: even HP toner isn't good enough anymore
« Reply #7 on: March 14, 2025, 10:28:19 pm »
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The firmware update in question is version 20250209, which HP issued on March 4 for its LaserJet MFP M232-M237 models. Per HP, the update includes “security updates,”  :bullshit: a “regulatory requirement update,”  :bullshit: “general improvements and bug fixes,”  :bullshit:  and "fixes for IPP Everywhere".

Joke:
"Security updates"
 To prevent a third party cartridge from being installed for HP's own security.

"regulatory requirement update"
To require ALL HP printers to only use HP cartridges and no other cartridge.

"Intellectual Property Protection(IPP)"
To protect our property.
Our property not yours.

“general improvements and bug fixes,"
To ensure they'll keep on making money over their over priced cartridges which will be
an improvement for HP and will class any printer firmware allowing the use of third party
cartridges as a bug that has to be fixed by this firmware update.

I have prevented my HP printers long ago from any internet access to try and prevent from
it happening since 2016 when they tried this out and ended up reverting.
« Last Edit: March 14, 2025, 10:34:13 pm by MrMobodies »
 

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Re: HP printers: even HP toner isn't good enough anymore
« Reply #8 on: March 15, 2025, 06:57:07 am »
people in the far future will start advanced mental training schools so they can memorize digital documents in order to prevent the re-emergence of printers after the great collapse. The great collapse occurred shortly after the HP and Altium merger that resulted in genesis of Haltium, also known as the AP corporation.

Like the A&P (US supermarket chain)?
Heh; reminds me of the electronics megastore chain, Fry's, in the SF Bay Area, which grew out of a grocery chain in the Southwest.
The first thing you saw when you came in was a huge display of food, mostly junk food favored by computer nerds.

A&P is a great store and should not be tarnished by Haltium
 


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