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Boeing jet loses parts of the wing in flight!
tggzzz:
--- Quote from: Alex Eisenhut on February 23, 2024, 01:54:51 am ---
--- Quote from: tggzzz on February 21, 2024, 06:41:43 pm ---F15 loses entire wing - and lands safely, albeit a little "hot".
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Sure but there you have a 2:1 engine:human ratio...
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More a case of "with enough thrust you can get a brick to fly".
Helps that the fuselage also gives lift :)
jpanhalt:
Fuselage or not, what that pilot did was pretty amazing. Another contributing factor was the near centerline thrust. Had the engines been on the wings, I doubt it would have been controllable.
Now back to Boeing, does that mean the 727 with centerline thrust is safer than the 737/757 in the event a wing comes off?
hans:
Even with centerline thrust.. if you lose 1 wing, the engine is still outbound on either side of your plane. The center of gravity and lift will shift, but the center of thrust won't. So it will require some big corrections to keep it flying at all.
However, having engines on the rudder and wing does allow more options for balancing this offset. So I agree losing a wing on a 727 is probably safer than on e.g. a 737, but it still sounds unsafe :-/O In particular, if the complete wing falls off... so does the main landing gear on that side. But I guess nothing is left to set fire to (e.g. the fuel in the tanks) during the inevitable crash-type landing, so thats a plus in all cases.
schmitt trigger:
Reminds me of The Twilight’s Zone episode “Nightmare at 20,000 feet”.
BTW, one of the best episodes of an excellent show.
Besides being a B&W film, the episode shows it’s age with 20,000 feet. Nowadays it would be renamed Nightmare at 35,000 feet.
https://youtu.be/fXHKDb0CNjA?si=JAJGhHaPLuFQfq9x
Alex Eisenhut:
--- Quote from: tggzzz on February 23, 2024, 09:54:44 am ---
More a case of "with enough thrust you can get a brick to fly".
Helps that the fuselage also gives lift :)
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My late Dad, who almost made it to 100, was alive just after the dawn of aviation and saw a lot of changes in aircraft. One day he told me he thinks fighter planes aren't planes, they're rockets... (He was much more of a glider guy really) He was only half joking, the F-15, and some others, can have >1:1 thrust to weight ratio.
Ever watch the videos about the Streak Eagle breaking various records in the '70s?
And a required meme
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