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donotdespisethesnake:
After having worked for several of these large companies, I see the same general pattern. Managers constantly trying to cut costs. Older employees who know how to do things properly are steadily lost, and the skill set of the company is eroded. The culture becomes entirely focused around reducing cost, managers seem to hope that quality happens by some sort of "magic".

However, I think it is inevitable in a free market. The rule says that in a free market, product cost reduces to that of the the lowest cost producer. The corollary is that the quality reduces to that of the lowest cost producer. This is driven by consumers, in this case airlines. They can't charge a premium simply because they use Boeing, because their customers (the passengers) don't care, and will buy the cheapest seat.

I have spent many days in meetings battling with managers to persuade them their latest brilliant idea will not save time or money in the long run, and will probably make it worse. I nearly always lose, and then of course are part of the team trying to pull the project out of the shit at the last minute. The managers busy themselves writing reports, which they can bias towards blaming the workers for having done a bad job (aka "poor execution"), or the customer for providing inadequate requirements, whatever the reason, it's never the fault of the managers.

Boeing pushed their luck and got caught out. But whatever the fallout from that is, it is going to do nothing to change the industry trend.
coppercone2:

--- Quote from: Kjelt on February 23, 2020, 10:23:57 am ---The good thing it is not intentional as it was in the early 70s carmakers where bored pot smoking assembly line workers put rocks in the most expensive cars fuel tank.
But human mistakes do happen, even surgeons leave sometimes instruments and wipes behind per accident

--- End quote ---

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frogg:
The lead author of that story is someone whose full time job right now is to basically crap on Boeing:

https://muckrack.com/andrew-tangel

Before that, he was a media shill for Caterpillar. Before that, he was working as a beat reporter about the NYC MTA.

Keep in mind that in the first year, 737 MAX's flew 41,797 flights, logged 118,006 flight hours, and flew 6.5M passengers.

Booties notwithstanding, it's good to take journalists with a grain of salt. They always have angle.
coppercone2:
you probably need to hire someone because who the hell is going to form a attack on giant industrial companies like caterpillar and boeing? especially when all their customers are probably locked into decades long service contracts and they are in bed with the government? Not exactly easy to fight a company that has ties to national defense and the nuclear program. The air force is talking shit about them its so bad

shoes in a fuel tank? thats like sneakers on a telephone pole its GHETTO. and caterpillar is not a great company either, listen to what old employees have to say about that place.. most people are happy to leave
frogg:

--- Quote from: coppercone2 on February 23, 2020, 05:03:51 pm ---shoes in a fuel tank? thats like sneakers on a telephone pole its GHETTO. and caterpillar is not a great company either, listen to what old employees have to say about that place.. most people are happy to leave

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RTFA, mate.
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