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Title: Breaking News: Over-Unity Reactionless Generator Invented In India
Post by: johnlsenchak on April 15, 2015, 07:37:58 pm
Breaking News: Over-Unity Reactionless Generator Invented In India
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Posted: 15 Apr 2015 04:38 AM PDT

“Ere many generations pass; our machinery will be driven by a power obtainable at any point in the universe.” – Nikola Tesla

A Reactionless AC Synchronous Generator (RLG) has been invented by Paramahamsa Tewari, electrical engineer and former Executive Director of Nuclear Power Corporation of India. His background includes engineering project management for construction of nuclear power stations. The efficiency of models he has built, which have also been independently built and tested, is as high as 250%.


In November 2014, I made one of many visits to the laboratory of Paramahamsa Tewari. I had seen the basis for the RLG design in September of 2010. Mr. Tewari showed me a stiff conductor about a foot long which was allowed to rotate at the center and connected at each end with small gauge wire. A magnetic circuit was placed under the conductor. When a current was allowed to flow through the conductor it rotated, due to a torque induced on the conductor according to Flemings Left Hand Rule and standard theory, verified by experiments at the dawn of the electrical age. With a simple rearrangement of the magnetic circuit, the same current produced no rotation – the torque was cancelled. I later duplicated the setup and experiment on my workbench. It is ingenious and lead to his breakthrough, the invention of a reactionless generator with greatly improved efficiency.

This experiment has lead to the design and testing of generators with efficiencies far above any previous design. The design uses the same types of materials used in current generators, but the magnetic circuit within the machine is configured to cancel back torque while inducing current and producing power. This might be compared to the rearrangement of materials by the Wright Brothers to build a surface with lift that resulted in manned flight in a time when many, including scientists, said it was impossible. Indeed, physicists who cling to an outdated model of the properties and structure of space have declared what has been done by Tewari to be impossible.

During the November testing I witnessed two tests of efficiency on the new model in Tewari’s lab. The second test was several percent better than the first and produced 6.6 KVA with an efficiency of 238%. A second set of stator coils was not connected yet but is expected to increase output to 300%. This is a 3 phase, 248 volt Hz, AC synchronous generator operating at 50 Hz. State of the art, true RMS meters on the input and output that measured KW, KVA, and power factor confirmed the readings of meters we had supplied for tests I observed in April of 2014.

We were able to visit a 130-acre factory site of one of the top electrical machinery manufacturing companies in India. At this site the company manufactures rotating electrical machines, including generators. When the chief electrical engineer first saw the drawings and design of the RLG he knew immediately what it meant for efficiency! Because of their confidence in the design, and the results of the tests on the smaller model, the company has assembled a self-excited machine designed to produce 20 KVA.

When we arrived at the factory a vice president of the company, the factory general manager, and the chief engineer greeted us. We then inspected the new machine and met the engineering design team assigned to this project. They are electrical and mechanical engineers who design and build conventional generators with output as high as 500 KVA. They are very enthusiastic and understand the breakthrough. A second machine rated at 25 KVA is now under construction at this company in India.

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I believe, as do the engineers in India, that this is the biggest breakthrough in rotating electrical machine design since Faraday’s invention of the electrical motor in 1832. The elimination of back torque allows all the energy generated to pass through the machine. Power output is determined by the strength of the excitation magnets and the synchronous reactance (resistance at 50/60 Hz) of the stator windings. Current models can be cascaded for higher output. Each machine can produce at least 2.38 times the input and can be configured in a self-running mode. Due to concentration on efficiency and design improvements the machine has not yet been configured in this manner.

During a visit to witness tests in December of 2012, we were guests of the engineering director of a large utility company, and we toured a generation facility which the director pointed out was ready for RLG systems as soon as they are scaled to the required size. In March 2015 we returned to India for licensing discussions. Current plans call for introductory models to be marketed at 10 KVA and 25 KVA. A second company is involved in manufacturing discussions and the Karnataka Power Corporation, which supplies Bangalore, is investigating the use of 200 KVA units in a wind farm application as described in the April 7th edition of Asia Times.

The November 2013 issue of The Atlantic magazine features an article on The 50 Greatest Breakthroughs Since the Wheel. The RLG is more than just a product or a technical innovation. It is a fundamental change in the way that energy can be generated. It overcomes the inherent inefficiencies of AC generators.
Patents have been filed and the RLG is ready to be licensed to companies that manufacture rotating electrical machinery. In fact, discussions with companies on three continents are underway.

We believe that the RLG is a fundamental discovery, not an innovation. Mankind’s first fundamental discovery was harnessing and controlling fire. The second was the wheel. The third was harnessing and controlling electricity. The fourth was harnessing and controlling the atom. The RLG can turn wheels without the use of fire (fossil fuels) or the atom (nuclear plants). It is a 21st century innovation. The first four of these innovations involved an understanding of material elements. The RLG is based on an understanding of the non-material properties of space.
Paramahamsa Tewari’s search for the nature of reality has led him from study of the ancient Vedas of India to the formulation of Space Vortex Theory. It is a new theory unifying the relationship between space, mass, inertia, light, and gravity. Starting with principles described in the Vedic texts, Tewari was able to delineate a mathematical model that explains the words of Tesla when he said:

“All perceptible matter comes from a primary substance, or tenuity beyond conception, filling all space, the akasha or luminiferous ether, which is acted upon by the life giving Prana or creative force, calling into existence, in never ending cycles all things and phenomena.” – Nikola Tesla,“Man’s Greatest Achievement,” 1907

In Tewari’s words:

“The universal matter is created out of prana since prana is aakaash in motion, and aakaash is the primordial superfluid substratum of the universe.”

The concept that efficiencies cannot be greater than 100% is due to an incomplete understanding of the properties of space. The second law of thermodynamics must be modified to account for the fact that space is not empty, as has been taught for the last 150 years. The RLG operates at what has been called “over unity.” Many experienced electrical engineers engaged in the manufacture of AC generators have independently tested the RLG and confirmed the efficiency ratings that I have observed. It’s time for the physicists to get out of the way and modify their theories while the engineers go about the business of design and production.

The theory and mathematical models can be found at:
Title: Re: Breaking News: Over-Unity Reactionless Generator Invented In India
Post by: cyr on April 15, 2015, 07:50:56 pm
“The universal matter is created out of prana since prana is aakaash in motion, and aakaash is the primordial superfluid substratum of the universe.”

Well, I'm convinced. How can anyone capable of putting that many nonsense terms into a sentence possibly be wrong?
Title: Re: Breaking News: Over-Unity Reactionless Generator Invented In India
Post by: johnlsenchak on April 15, 2015, 07:54:31 pm


Bob's your Uncle  , lets   see  what the " waffling  Aussie"    has to say about this article
Title: Re: Breaking News: Over-Unity Reactionless Generator Invented In India
Post by: Rufus on April 15, 2015, 07:57:49 pm
I think I will call this "loon spam"

The practice of spamming the internet with information to increase the number of search engine hits and give the loon associated with the information more credibility.

Mods - Feel free to delete this new user and the whole thread.
Title: Re: Breaking News: Over-Unity Reactionless Generator Invented In India
Post by: Howardlong on April 15, 2015, 07:58:39 pm
Pretty brave first two posts. This seems to be two weeks late in posting for such word salad.
Title: Re: Breaking News: Over-Unity Reactionless Generator Invented In India
Post by: johnlsenchak on April 15, 2015, 08:01:01 pm
Dave  would say  "aaaahhh  it's utter nonsense " :-DD
Title: Re: Breaking News: Over-Unity Reactionless Generator Invented In India
Post by: pickle9000 on April 15, 2015, 08:02:53 pm
I wonder if there are any hamsters in there?
Title: Re: Breaking News: Over-Unity Reactionless Generator Invented In India
Post by: johnlsenchak on April 15, 2015, 08:04:47 pm
Or even  a     flux capacitor creating all that energy 
Title: Re: Breaking News: Over-Unity Reactionless Generator Invented In India
Post by: JackP on April 15, 2015, 08:08:26 pm
I love how he said it was a fundamental discovery, not innovation, and then goes in to say it is a 21st century innovation
Title: Re: Breaking News: Over-Unity Reactionless Generator Invented In India
Post by: codeboy2k on April 15, 2015, 08:17:38 pm
It sure is shiny.
Title: Re: Breaking News: Over-Unity Reactionless Generator Invented In India
Post by: Tallie on April 15, 2015, 08:51:51 pm
Seems legit.
Title: Re: Breaking News: Over-Unity Reactionless Generator Invented In India
Post by: free_electron on April 15, 2015, 10:16:36 pm
no moving parts ... produces 50 hz ... hmmmm
Title: Re: Breaking News: Over-Unity Reactionless Generator Invented In India
Post by: EEVblog on April 15, 2015, 10:56:25 pm
You lost me at
The efficiency of models he has built, which have also been independently built and tested, is as high as 250%.

Err, no, try measuring it again, properly  :palm:

All the usual free energy BS - you get first hand account of how they witnessed the testing, a "chief electrical engineer" "knew immediately", using "state of the art" test gear, promises of better efficiency with bigger model, comparisons with the wheel, Tesla quotes, many experienced EE's have verified it, patents on the way, all it needs is to go straight into production  :blah:  :blah:  :blah:

There must be a bot generator for these articles, right?
Title: Re: Breaking News: Over-Unity Reactionless Generator Invented In India
Post by: atferrari on April 16, 2015, 12:14:00 am
The Cordlash straps are a nice and original touch.
Title: Re: Breaking News: Over-Unity Reactionless Generator Invented In India
Post by: xrunner on April 16, 2015, 12:33:12 am
He posted a picture of it what more do you want?  :wtf:
Title: Re: Breaking News: Over-Unity Reactionless Generator Invented In India
Post by: pickle9000 on April 16, 2015, 01:11:22 am
And in looking up one of terms I found something that is actually interesting.

"NASA says puzzling new space drive can generate thrust without propellant"

http://www.gizmag.com/cannae-reactionless-drive-space-propulsion/33210/ (http://www.gizmag.com/cannae-reactionless-drive-space-propulsion/33210/)
Title: Re: Breaking News: Over-Unity Reactionless Generator Invented In India
Post by: cloudscapes on April 16, 2015, 01:59:23 am
MOTOR SIDE
Title: Re: Breaking News: Over-Unity Reactionless Generator Invented In India
Post by: all_repair on April 16, 2015, 02:11:40 am
Please read again.  He was from the management.  THAT cannot be wrong, anything is possible.
Title: Re: Breaking News: Over-Unity Reactionless Generator Invented In India
Post by: Bud on April 16, 2015, 03:11:10 am
Err, no, try measuring it again, properly  :palm:
He did
Quote
The second test was several percent better than the first and produced 6.6 KVA with an efficiency of 238%.
So it was Not 237% or 239% as you might expect.
Title: Re: Breaking News: Over-Unity Reactionless Generator Invented In India
Post by: LabSpokane on April 16, 2015, 05:32:54 am


Bob's your Uncle  , lets   see  what the " waffling  Aussie"    has to say about this article

Do you really need Dave to confirm the first law of thermodynamics for you?   :-//
Title: Re: Breaking News: Over-Unity Reactionless Generator Invented In India
Post by: aargee on April 16, 2015, 07:38:53 am
'Over unity'? Yes - I'm over it!

101 uses for a buzz-word generator.
Title: Re: Breaking News: Over-Unity Reactionless Generator Invented In India
Post by: blueskull on April 16, 2015, 07:40:39 am
Those reporters didn't learn physics in mid and high school?
Title: Re: Breaking News: Over-Unity Reactionless Generator Invented In India
Post by: niflheimer on April 16, 2015, 07:59:21 am
Would they be reporters if they did ? :))
Title: Re: Breaking News: Over-Unity Reactionless Generator Invented In India
Post by: Circlotron on April 16, 2015, 08:24:26 am
The Cordlash straps are a nice and original touch.
Like the blower safety straps on a top fuel engine. After all, that thing is just raring to go!
http://www.bmeltd.com/archive/archive_new/Dragster/images/515.06.jpg (http://www.bmeltd.com/archive/archive_new/Dragster/images/515.06.jpg)
Title: Re: Breaking News: Over-Unity Reactionless Generator Invented In India
Post by: Howardlong on April 16, 2015, 09:02:29 am
And in looking up one of terms I found something that is actually interesting.

"NASA says puzzling new space drive can generate thrust without propellant"

http://www.gizmag.com/cannae-reactionless-drive-space-propulsion/33210/ (http://www.gizmag.com/cannae-reactionless-drive-space-propulsion/33210/)

Is this not just radiation pressure? The use of sails in space has already been proven, using solar radiation to provide delta v.

Reasonably speaking this is only useful for minor repositioning in the Clarke belt and minor orbital corrections, and course maneuvers for deep space missions. It won't help getting your hardware into space to begin with though, the force is just too small.
Title: Re: Breaking News: Over-Unity Reactionless Generator Invented In India
Post by: Psi on April 16, 2015, 09:02:29 am
Likelihood that the laws of physics have just been turned upside down

0.000000000000000000000001

Likelihood someone is lying intentionally or otherwise
0.999999999999999999999999


I for one hope it's the first option, but i will put all the money i have on the 2nd.
Title: Re: Breaking News: Over-Unity Reactionless Generator Invented In India
Post by: Zero999 on April 16, 2015, 09:08:35 am
He posted a picture of it what more do you want?  :wtf:
I didn't read the text. The picture says it all and is very funny. lol
Title: Re: Breaking News: Over-Unity Reactionless Generator Invented In India
Post by: dexters_lab on April 16, 2015, 09:50:50 am
and again the name of Nikola Tesla being shat upon and hijacked by crackpots :--
Title: Re: Breaking News: Over-Unity Reactionless Generator Invented In India
Post by: Galenbo on April 16, 2015, 11:48:07 am
Unbreaking news: It doesn't work, the conditions were not met, scientific notations got creatively interpreted, scam, fraud or a lie.

But why are people happy, or hoping to find overunit machines?

It would make energy cheaper, close to zero, producing spectaculary more energy (heat)
Even without those machines, oceans will boil in 400 years.

And why some 238% ? If it really should exist, let it turn for a week, build a second one with the profit, let it run for a week,...
Something double exponential here, in a few weeks you reach a millon percent.

So I can add a law of overunit machines: They only exist in infinite Yield, producing infinite power from nearly no input.
Enough to blow the world.
Title: Re: Breaking News: Over-Unity Reactionless Generator Invented In India
Post by: dexters_lab on April 16, 2015, 11:53:47 am
Unbreaking news: It doesn't work, the conditions were not met, scientific notations got creatively interpreted, scam, fraud or a lie.

But why are people happy, or hoping to find overunit machines?

It would make energy cheaper, close to zero, producing spectaculary more energy (heat)
Even without those machines, oceans will boil in 400 years.

indeed, this was predicted by Arthur C. Clarke if a very cheap abundant energy source was found
Title: Re: Breaking News: Over-Unity Reactionless Generator Invented In India
Post by: Galenbo on April 16, 2015, 12:15:36 pm
indeed, this was predicted by Arthur C. Clarke if a very cheap abundant energy source was found

I got the story from a guy that explained that 2% economic growth is impossible, because at that rate the oceans boil in 400 years.
He kept the same development level, and made less developed areas grow.

I'm gonna read a bit on the guy you mentioned: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_C._Clarke (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_C._Clarke)
Title: Re: Breaking News: Over-Unity Reactionless Generator Invented In India
Post by: xrunner on April 16, 2015, 12:24:44 pm
“The universal matter is created out of prana since prana is aakaash in motion, and aakaash is the primordial superfluid substratum of the universe.”

I got your prana buddy.  :-DD
Title: Re: Breaking News: Over-Unity Reactionless Generator Invented In India
Post by: janoc on April 16, 2015, 12:25:14 pm
There must be a bot generator for these articles, right?

Maybe just an army of cooks trying to scam investors for money using a bunch of pre-made templates sold to them by some entrepreneuring crooks. Pretty much like the "Nigerian" 419 scams work. You know, the type "I am bank manager/government clerk/whatever in a country XXX in Africa and I have found $9999999999 sitting in a safe. I need your help to export them out of the country and will share it with you ..." Scammers sending these spams have literally form letter generators and people selling templates in reasonable English to the less lingvistically gifted crooks.

Title: Re: Breaking News: Over-Unity Reactionless Generator Invented In India
Post by: Galenbo on April 16, 2015, 01:13:14 pm
There must be a bot generator for these articles, right?

Maybe just an army of cooks trying to scam investors for money using...

I often think it's the guys that are frustrated because for the second time they failed the first year in Physics or Engineering.
Let's take 'science' back...

Like it's the guys that failed to become a pilot that invent the stories of the chemtrails.
Title: Re: Breaking News: Over-Unity Reactionless Generator Invented In India
Post by: SeanB on April 16, 2015, 05:56:28 pm
indeed, this was predicted by Arthur C. Clarke if a very cheap abundant energy source was found

I got the story from a guy that explained that 2% economic growth is impossible, because at that rate the oceans boil in 400 years.
He kept the same development level, and made less developed areas grow.

I'm gonna read a bit on the guy you mentioned: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_C._Clarke (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_C._Clarke)

When you are finished with Clarke go read Larry Niven and Jerry Pournelle. Especially the Tales of Known Space, as there you see how a species that decided to move lock, stock and solar system stay happy even though they have left their sun behind, just using the waste heat from their industry to keep the planets warm. then read Ringworld.
Title: Re: Breaking News: Over-Unity Reactionless Generator Invented In India
Post by: free_electron on April 16, 2015, 06:19:23 pm
Ringworld is nonsense. Discworld is where the future is !

+++ melon melon melon +++
+++Error At Address: 14, Treacle Mine Road, Ankh-Morpork+++
+++Divide By Cucumber Error. Please Reinstall Universe+++
Title: Re: Breaking News: Over-Unity Reactionless Generator Invented In India
Post by: rdl on April 16, 2015, 06:38:45 pm
When you are finished with Clarke go read Larry Niven and Jerry Pournelle. Especially the Tales of Known Space, as there you see how a species that decided to move lock, stock and solar system stay happy even though they have left their sun behind, just using the waste heat from their industry to keep the planets warm. then read Ringworld.


The collaboration of Niven and Pournelle produced some of the best, technically accurate, science fiction that was ever written. Niven, I think, was the better fiction writer of the two and more prolific. Most of the books and stories set in the "Known Space" universe are brilliant. Anyone who read Pournelle's "A Step Farther Out" from 1984 knows that the last 30 years probably deserve a big face palm.
Title: Re: Breaking News: Over-Unity Reactionless Generator Invented In India
Post by: SeanB on April 16, 2015, 07:10:40 pm
On that line, pop over to Jerrypournelle.com and give him a tip. That way he can carry on with the good writing he is doing, even with having a hole burned in his brain, and recently having a mild stroke, he is still an amazing person. I quite enjoyed his appearance on Starshipsofa.com a while ago, it was worth it.
Title: Re: Breaking News: Over-Unity Reactionless Generator Invented In India
Post by: Rupunzell on April 17, 2015, 05:15:58 pm
What does Maxwell's Demon say about this   >:D


Bernice
Title: Re: Breaking News: Over-Unity Reactionless Generator Invented In India
Post by: Howardlong on April 17, 2015, 10:32:40 pm
Now that's spooky, Arthur C Clarke referred to twice in a single thread, one regarding delta-v using radiation pressure in the Clarke Belt (geostationary orbits were first discussed by Clarke in the 1940s, that's how you get direct broadcast satellite TV), and another regarding boiling oceans.
Title: Re: Breaking News: Over-Unity Reactionless Generator Invented In India
Post by: edavid on April 17, 2015, 11:00:06 pm
And in looking up one of terms I found something that is actually interesting.

"NASA says puzzling new space drive can generate thrust without propellant"

http://www.gizmag.com/cannae-reactionless-drive-space-propulsion/33210/ (http://www.gizmag.com/cannae-reactionless-drive-space-propulsion/33210/)

"Did NASA Validate an “Impossible” Space Drive? In a Word, No."
http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/outthere/2014/08/06/nasa-validate-imposible-space-drive-word (http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/outthere/2014/08/06/nasa-validate-imposible-space-drive-word)