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SerieZ:

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Btw as a funfact about Morals: I believe Switzerland has one of the most Brothels per square meter in Europe,
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Maybe I will have to revise my assessment of Swiss puritanism!  :D

Funny how many people in the world have so much trouble coming to terms with the fact of being a mammal...

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If you take your assessment of a whole people by a Family Anecdote (big :palm: at that fact btw) of some guy from the Internet...  :-//  :-//
The whole point anyways was that I would not enjoy paying for someone else's enjoyment, especially not some career politician, and really why would you? To make the "anti-eu" crowd mad? Masochism?

The most ridiculous argument I keep on hearing is that without this central power version of the EU we have today we would have tons of new European Wars, where do you get that Idea from? Do you remember pre year 2000 EU? Do you mean something like Yugoslavia - an overreaching centralized and totalitarian government?

Nice Erasmus Projects, Science collaborations, free movement and not having the hassle of exchanging currency still dont make me cheer for Bureaucrats... I am just too much of a hatefull Swiss to accept Assimilation into the Collective.  :blah:
schmitt trigger:
My personal take, as an EU outsider who has traveled extensively to Europe for over 40 years, is that since the EU’s inception, individual countries have become less individual and more homogenized, more “European” for lack of a better term.

It is something very subtle, and can’t really pinpoint anything in particular or that sticks out. But there is something in the background.
 
Again, this is only my personal perception. I could be full of it.
SilverSolder:

--- Quote from: schmitt trigger on December 16, 2020, 06:54:02 pm ---My personal take, as an EU outsider who has traveled extensively to Europe for over 40 years, is that since the EU’s inception, individual countries have become less individual and more homogenized, more “European” for lack of a better term.

It is something very subtle, and can’t really pinpoint anything in particular or that sticks out. But there is something in the background.
 
Again, this is only my personal perception. I could be full of it.

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I think you are right, but the same effect is true across the Atlantic and elsewhere in the world -  perhaps driven by the same chain stores and the same products being consumed worldwide, and obviously especially in the Single Market?
SilverSolder:

--- Quote from: SerieZ on December 16, 2020, 10:55:02 am ---
--- Quote from: SilverSolder on December 15, 2020, 06:25:30 pm ---
--- Quote from: SerieZ on December 15, 2020, 06:58:41 am ---[...]
Btw as a funfact about Morals: I believe Switzerland has one of the most Brothels per square meter in Europe,
[...]

--- End quote ---

Maybe I will have to revise my assessment of Swiss puritanism!  :D

Funny how many people in the world have so much trouble coming to terms with the fact of being a mammal...

--- End quote ---

If you take your assessment of a whole people by a Family Anecdote (big :palm: at that fact btw) of some guy from the Internet...  :-//  :-//
The whole point anyways was that I would not enjoy paying for someone else's enjoyment, especially not some career politician, and really why would you? To make the "anti-eu" crowd mad? Masochism?

The most ridiculous argument I keep on hearing is that without this central power version of the EU we have today we would have tons of new European Wars, where do you get that Idea from? Do you remember pre year 2000 EU? Do you mean something like Yugoslavia - an overreaching centralized and totalitarian government?

Nice Erasmus Projects, Science collaborations, free movement and not having the hassle of exchanging currency still dont make me cheer for Bureaucrats... I am just too much of a hatefull Swiss to accept Assimilation into the Collective.  :blah:

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Norwegians are also fiercely independent...  -   I think it is OK that we find arrangements that everyone can live with, it doesn't have to be the same formula for every country -  let's be practical! :D
Cerebus:

--- Quote from: schmitt trigger on December 16, 2020, 06:54:02 pm ---My personal take, as an EU outsider who has traveled extensively to Europe for over 40 years, is that since the EU’s inception, individual countries have become less individual and more homogenized, more “European” for lack of a better term.

It is something very subtle, and can’t really pinpoint anything in particular or that sticks out. But there is something in the background.
 
Again, this is only my personal perception. I could be full of it.

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I think you're right. Part of it is the effective dismantling of borders. I know quite a few Europeans who live near borders and nowadays don't think anything of popping into another country to do some shopping, or go for a meal. Before the 'free movement' era that was something that was highly unlikely to do on a whim, you'd at least need your passport, you'd have to do some advanced planning in some cases. (Britain has been the odd man out in this regard, as there's a dirty great strip of water in the way between us and everybody else.)

Over the past 25 years I've done a fair bit of working around Europe on occasion; I definitely get the feeling that there is much less of a tendency for Europeans to think of Europeans from other countries as 'foreigners' in quite the same way they would have 30, 40, perhaps 50 years ago.
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