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BREXIT - what it means for small manufacturers
coppice:
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--- Quote from: S. Petrukhin on December 12, 2020, 06:40:07 am ---
--- Quote from: fcb on December 11, 2020, 02:02:57 pm ---United Kingdom (UK) is Great Britain (GB) and North Ireland (NI).
Great Britain (GB) is England, Scotland and Wales.
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UK and GB legally it is two different countries?
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That's far too simple.
As someone that dislikes yootoob videos, I recommend this short information-dense explanation:
Confused? You will be!
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Even the explanation in that video misses some important points. Like the UK government itself struggles with these distinctions. Its only very recently that the British Prime Minister started to consistently sign international agreements as the Prime Minister of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, or the Prime Minister of the UK. There are lots of documents into the middle of the 20th century which were signed by the Prime Minister of England. Notably, this might have lead Hitler to think he never agreed not to invade Scotland, Wales, or Northern Ireland, and certainly was OK to take over the Channel Islands, which he did. :)
fcb:
--- Quote from: schmitt trigger on December 12, 2020, 03:07:02 pm ---Question for the British that attend this forum:
Do you think that, historically speaking, this will be a watershed moment for the UK?
Watershed in the full meaning of the word. A Trafalgar moment.
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No, probably the exact opposite of Trafalgar.
I think the UK will spend the next X years getting our butts kicked by the EU power mongers. I hope I'm wrong, but think we will have to fight very hard to maintain straightforward access to the EU; somewhere I read that we import more from the EU than we export to the EU so there are some powerful allies in Europe that might help moderate the 'battle'.
fcb:
--- Quote from: bd139 on December 12, 2020, 04:03:35 pm ---
--- Quote from: fcb on December 12, 2020, 02:55:34 pm ---I heard that fishing is <0.1% of UK GDP. But something like 1-2% of the EU GDP. We have virtually no fishing fleet here in the UK, most of the UK waters are fished by huge companies out of The Netherlands, France, etc.. so it's a big old bargaining chip for Boris.
Friends of mine involved in marine technology say that they are constantly asked by EU colleagues about what will happen to fishing and the UK - they all seem alot more bothered about it than most UK people. As the fisheries protection chaps only have two boats to patrol the UK's vast waters then obviously the armed forces will be used to try and stop illegal activity, no doubt ratcheted up by The Daily Mail etc.. and then the French farmers will blockade Calais and we'll be forced to eat our own Cheddar, Caerphilly and Lamb.
In time more pragmatic minds will prevail and some brightspark will suggest joining a trading block in Europe?
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Fishing = £762 million
Financial services = £133,000 million.
Of course it's all about the fish and not the financial services market. Agenda much?
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Very very few give a flying toss about bankers. But take the image of a Cornish fisherman hauling an empty net and you'll find a queue a mile long ready to take up arms.
coppice:
--- Quote from: fcb on December 12, 2020, 04:05:37 pm ---
--- Quote from: schmitt trigger on December 12, 2020, 03:07:02 pm ---Question for the British that attend this forum:
Do you think that, historically speaking, this will be a watershed moment for the UK?
Watershed in the full meaning of the word. A Trafalgar moment.
--- End quote ---
No, probably the exact opposite of Trafalgar.
I think the UK will spend the next X years getting our butts kicked by the EU power mongers. I hope I'm wrong, but think we will have to fight very hard to maintain straightforward access to the EU; somewhere I read that we import more from the EU than we export to the EU so there are some powerful allies in Europe that might help moderate the 'battle'.
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There might be other allies in the EU. EU interests now own so much of the UK's infrastructure, they will probably want to see use of that infrastructure remaining vigorous.
themadhippy:
Cant understand why doris +co are so fixated on fishing,even if we get to own the waters the rights to fish those waters have already been sold,by british fishermen to foreign investors.Then theirs the 50 fishermen nipping over from bruges waving a bit of paper signed by charley 2
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