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BREXIT - what it means for small manufacturers
olkipukki:
--- Quote from: Simon on December 28, 2020, 04:14:27 pm ---
The UK are pretty crap at bothering to collect VAT/duty hence they actually got investigated by the EU..... so no, we don't really experience paying duty/VAT very often.
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Haha, a friend of my told a story: a seller "stampted" $20 goods price on a small-parcel, and sudden FX rate charge has triggered VAT collection :palm:, so Royal Mail been happy to charge 8 (?) pounds for leaving 'We cannot delivery your parcel, VAT due here' card... :-DD
bd139:
Yeah that’s about it.
That’s why I love Tayda Electronics. Order £50 of shit and it turns up with a $7 pre printed customs valuation :-DD. The whole company is basically a big fuck you.
fcb:
--- Quote from: olkipukki on December 28, 2020, 04:12:06 pm ---
--- Quote from: fcb on December 28, 2020, 02:02:00 pm ---UK company selling a £30 thing to an EU customer on/after 1st Jan 2021:
£30.00 paid by German customer to UK company
£5.70 VAT (equivalent at some likely rubbish exchange rate) paid by German customer to German treasury via postal service or courier.
€6.00+ paid by German customer to postal service or courier for the service..
thing costs customer €33.30+€6.33+€6.00=~€45.63
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Since you have DHL and UPS accounts, you can cover a customer headache and pay any due taxes as part of shipment arrangement, isn't?
--- Quote from: fcb on December 28, 2020, 02:02:00 pm ---Can any EU forum members contribute examples of buying items from outside the EU, in particular the costs and delays incurred??
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Did you never buy anything from non-EU (US,China for example) as non-DDP delivery? :o
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Lower cost stuff tends to ship via post (Royal Mail) - not couriers. No method to prepay.
For items that ship via UPS/DHL we could arrange to pay the duties and taxes, but finding out what those are from UPS/DHL (even with a commodity code/HTS number) is mysterious dark art for most destination countries.
We mainly do non-DDP delivery from outside EU. Digikey/Mouser both handle all the VAT/excise duty, so technically they are DDP.
Simon:
--- Quote from: olkipukki on December 28, 2020, 04:28:35 pm ---
--- Quote from: Simon on December 28, 2020, 04:14:27 pm ---
The UK are pretty crap at bothering to collect VAT/duty hence they actually got investigated by the EU..... so no, we don't really experience paying duty/VAT very often.
--- End quote ---
Haha, a friend of my told a story: a seller "stampted" $20 goods price on a small-parcel, and sudden FX rate charge has triggered VAT collection :palm:, so Royal Mail been happy to charge 8 (?) pounds for leaving 'We cannot delivery your parcel, VAT due here' card... :-DD
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Royal mail are crap! their selloff was totally corrupt and they were not the struggling business that our extreme right wing government made out. They had just started to turn a profit thanks to mugs like me using them to ship goods whilst being treated like dirt. Once privatised it got even worse. It's not about the service anymore, but shareholders.
It's really simple actually the UK government need to decide how it's handled and legislate. Something along the lines of a declaration made by the sender to the carrier so that VAT can automatically be calculated (x*0.2 is a really simple calculation you know....) and send the receiver a request for payment after which the parcel can be delivered. It's a computer system no more complicated than what this forum runs on. I don't have a problem with a sensible fee like £1 but to pretend that it's a whole load of paperwork and expense is how they get away with ripping you off now.
bd139:
Just fuck ‘em now. I use Hermes for anything outbound. Actually better and cheaper than RM now. I get the feeling they’re going to make a killing in Europe if they make this smooth.
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